#15 Wisdom and Job

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Timothy: Let us examine what we’d rather not behold and look at.

Intro: Welcome to the Consider Podcast where we turn our minds to consider wisdom, madness and folly. Join the host Timothy and Jacob on a quest to have God enlighten the mind according to verse 25 of Ecclesiastes chapter 7. So, I turned my mind to understand. To investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things and to understand the stupidity of wickedness and the madness of folly. Ecclesiastes 7:25. The Consider Podcast examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities at www.consider.info
Video: You were listening to the Consider Podcast, where becoming wise is the smart thing to do. “Wisdom calls aloud in the street. She raises her voice in the public squares. At the head of the noisy street, she cries out. In the gateways of the city, she makes his speech. How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will Maca’s delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? If you had responded to my rebuke, I would have poured out my heart to you and made my thoughts known to you; But since you rejected me when I called and no one gave heed when I stretched out my hand. Since you ignored all my advice and would not accept my rebuke, I in turn will laugh at your disaster. I will mock when calamity overtakes you. When calamity overtakes you like a storm; when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind; when distress and trouble overwhelm you. Then they will call to me, but I will not answer. They will look for me but will not find me. Since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord, since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke, they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit of their schemes. For the waywardness of the simple will kill them and the complacency of fools will destroy them. But whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease without fear of harm”. (Proverbs 1:20-33). The Consider Podcast. Examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities. www.consider.info.

Timothy: We’re going to attempt to kind of wrap up looking at wisdom for now anyway. We can always come back to it. Jacob, I’m going to start with my usual question for which we all know the answer. Have you ever heard anybody pray that they want to be like Job?

Jacob: No, nobody voluntarily.

Timothy: Really, you’ve never anybody come up to the front and everybody’s down in the past because I pray Lord, you bless all these people like you did Job?

Jacob: No, you hear people want the blessings of David people want the blessings of Moses, Abraham, you go on and on and on. But no, I don’t remember ever who wants to be a Job.

Timothy: Go to James chapter 5 verse 11. Because James points us to Job. And we’re going to look at Job because Job was rebuked seriously would be an understatement. But he was rebuked specifically by God and directly. We’re going to examine that here in just a little bit. I hope we can get it kind of get to all the scriptures. We’ll see. James chapter 5 verse 11. By the way, James is not the usual book most people like in the church. In fact, there’s been debate whether it should be in the Bible and people certainly don’t like the his whole concept of faith and works working together. So, it’s no surprise that Job isn’t exactly on anybody’s mind.

In fact, there’s very little if zero discussion about Job and the application in our lives. I’m sure it’s out there but James 5:11 says, “As you know,” we should know. There should be a lot of discussion about it. I used to have when days were going bad. There were certain days I called it Job Day. Everything just went wrong no matter what happened. And it seemed like God or life had zeroed in and was just making everything go the wrong direction. Well God does bring Job days. But it says, “As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. Lord is full of compassion and mercy.”

So, we do well to go back and really look at Job. There’s a Lot of scripture there. There’s a lot of discussion. There’s even a lot of truth even though the guys get rebuked in the end. There’s a whole host of life in there that the problem is and I think the only reason people kind of study it from an intellectual point of view or somebody preaches a sermon about the history and the time Joe lived and whether it was the first book written and who wrote it and it goes on and on and on. Because certainly nobody in their flesh wants to experience it. Right?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Okay. Let’s go jump to Hebrews 11:35 and I’m moving a little bit fast here because we’re trying to get up to some major scriptures. But Hebrews chapter 11 verse 35, I want to show you Job heart or a Job mentality and contrast that with everything that’s in the Christian community. Hebrews chapter 11 goes into a lot of discussion about various acts of faith, some administered justice, some where you see back the dead on and on and the focus is usually on all and I’m going to put this in quotes, the positive aspects of Hebrews 11. Because those people get blessed and we all want the resurrection miracles or we all want things to move in our life but they fail to recognize the second part that there is why we carry the life of Jesus Christ. There’s also the death of Jesus Christ at the same time.

So, Hebrews 11 verse 35 shows an attitude. I have yet, I have yet to see it discussed anywhere. I won’t even ask you the question. Everybody likes to go to movies about people who have suffered for Christ or read books about other people suffering for Christ. It’s always kind of out there and somebody else is doing it and it’s repeat. It’s all old history. That’s not to downplay what they went through. But when’s the last time any of these people that went through these sufferings quoted Hebrews chapter 11 verse 35. I’ll let you read that Jacob.

Jacob: “Women received back their dead raised to life again.”

Timothy: Amen. Wouldn’t we all be excited about that?

Jacob: Oh yeah.

Timothy: If you’re going to have a fundraiser or whatever. That’s what you preach. Our life in Christ. We’re overcomers received back the dead. I can’t do it very long. But you get the idea right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Everybody’s all for that. Even all, usually the stories we hear about the sufferings that go on. They get out, they escape, they tell their story, and God does work miracles. I’m not trying to undermine that but if we don’t balance that with the offense of the cross, we begin to lose the gospel. A lot of people suffer for a lot of religious reasons, different religions suffer. All kinds of people suffer all kinds of reasons but Jesus is very adamant about it has to be in spirit and truth and so often the truth is just left out. So, I’m going to let you read the of this truth.

Jacob: “Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.”

Timothy: I’m not even going to play the fool by asking Jacob, have you ever heard people talking about that if they’re ever tortured for Jesus or thrown into prison and they come in with the key and say, okay, you can go you’re free there that they plan on saying to their jailers, nope, I’m staying right here.

Jacob: No, you don’t hear that. A lot of churches will preach and talk about you reap what you sow. So, I know we’re about to go deeper with stuff but in some senses, this is reap what you sow. Meaning, they will like I will be tortured. I’m not going to be released because I will receive a better resurrection.

Timothy: Correct, yes.

Jacob: But when all the churches talk about that you reap what you sow. No one goes to this scripture and it’s like you should take on more. We encourage. You should be tortured because you will get a better reward in heaven. Never.

Timothy: They’ll talk about all the positive things in Jesus but never point to the suffering of the cross that would actually bring it about.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Oh yeah. I’m trying to move forward because we’re going to come back. No, no. We’ll come back to this. But the point is I mean, look, I would be highly impressed somebody comes back or you get word of yeah, they the court said you can go free and they said no your honor just lock me up. I want to stay in here under this miserable condition and be tortured. It’s an amazing scripture. It tests our heart. And I tell you what it really tests is how well are we receiving the small sufferings that God brings in our life. And how well are we persevering in those and learning from those. I might look at this and go my heart’s not with that. And I have to admit that I’m not, there kind of thing and pray that before the Lord.
So, the way that I get to a place where I can refuse to be released is every single day that something small comes my way I refuse to be released from that suffering. So, let me repeat that. God brings or he tries to bring the sufferings of Jesus Christ in our life. And they will come in small ways normally. Well, how we embrace that makes and determines how much we grow to understand, how much life there is. And what I’m saying here are what scripture is declaring and how much joy there is if you refuse to be released from the sufferings of Christ in your life.

Jacob: Everybody just will at best, I guess you would endure the Job day knowing that it’s going to get better or even the world, right? Like there’s this sort of like it will get better and I think that’s what everybody focuses on.

Timothy: That’s a good point. Part of it and some of the sufferings I’ve gone through, the only reason you can say yeah, I’ll persevere like Job is because you think it’s going to get over with pretty quick.

Jacob: Well, doesn’t everybody even when you look at Job’s life see his life ended great according to the world standards.

Timothy: Yeah.

Jacob: But yeah, nobody likes to focus on the middle and well my point there is that how long it took.

Jacob: Oh yeah for a long time.

Timothy: That’s what I’m saying. There’s certain promises God’s brought in my life. I thought they were going to come a lot quicker but it’s going a lot longer than I thought. So, that’s what I’m talking about we want to get out from the suffering and we think we’ll endure because well it’s going to be over with shortly.

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Well, when God disciplines with the Job discipline and I’m kind of off track here it’s going to go longer we want it to.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Because he’s trying to deal with our flesh and trying to get us to rise above things with faith and love. We’ve got to press on with that. We’ll come back to all of this I hope in the Lord later. Let’s go to Psalms 119 verse 97, because when we get to it, we’re going to play the rebuke God gives Job. And it’s audios that we will listen to and then they’re quite long at least by today’s standard. And what I want to encourage people to do is just listen to the word. Take the Just let it soak in. Don’t try to understand it per se. It’s kind of like washing yourself in the word. Sometimes you just splash the water on and it’s refreshing. You really don’t know how it’s doing the work.

So, I know soundbites are supposed to be what? 60 seconds or 10 seconds? I don’t know. Everybody’s supposed to have the attention span of a goldfish. Which means probably goldfish are pretty intelligent. But anyway Psalms 119 verse 97. Let’s look at what it says. “Oh, how I love your law! I meditate on it all day long.” And this is part of the benefit of wisdom. If you will meditate on God’s word all day long. Just meditate. Don’t tell God what it means or try to you just meditate and you just sit before the Lord and okay God just bring it in, soak it in, and then by itself the word will begin to produce life and the sufferings of Jesus and the joys of Jesus all come together. The benefits of wisdom, let’s just read a few of those things.

Verse 98 of Psalm 119, “Your commands me wiser than my enemies.” You’re going to be persecuted a lot if you pick up your cross and honestly follow Jesus Christ. You’ll need the wisdom. It’ll make you smarter than everybody who’s coming after you; for they are ever with me. “I have more insight than all my teachers, for I meditate on your statue.” Just the meditation of just letting the word soak in and do its work and humbly accept that word Peter says. Don’t try to make it into something. Let God teach you and you. He goes on to say in verse 100, “I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts.” You got to step from meditation to obedience. That has to be there. “I have kept my feet from every evil path.” Not only do you obey what God says, but you also start avoiding paths you should not go down. And you get rid of things in your life or people that you shouldn’t be associating with.

“I’ve kept my feet from every evil path so that I might obey your word.” You got to get rid of the clutter in your life. You would do well just to listen to scripture and with the idea obviously of obeying it and putting everything aside for a while. Because God himself. Look at Psalm 119 verse a 102. Jacob, why don’t you read that?

Jacob: “I have not departed from your laws, for you yourself have taught me.”

Timothy: One of the reasons you find so many people departing really from scripture is because they haven’t been taught by God. They won’t sit quietly and let him teach. They won’t let the rebukes come. They don’t want to be the disciples that follow Jesus and be all confused. Pastors also get in the way. They explain everything or they think they have an explanation. Nobody’s permitted or allowed to go through grumbling processes or emotional turmoil when it comes to God. We everybody be happy and be at peace and that’s not a crucifixion. They’re literally like people you’re trying to be crucified by Christ and they come up there and, go, oh you just need to be at peace. You just need to be happy. You need to come on down is really what they’re saying.

“I have not departed from your laws, for you yourself have taught me.” And then one of my favorite passages is 103, “How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth!” there is a literal sense and taste, if you’re in a position before the Lord to allow the word to do its work. All of scripture. It just taste good. There’s a real live to it and energy to it. So, as we listen to Job being rebuked, there’s just that’s honey. That prepares me to be rebuked. Because if Job can take that kind of rebuking, I should be able to take the little minor things that God comes to me with. “Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.” It is the word that will guide us into all of these things.

Alright, let’s set up the situation now. Let’s go to Job chapter 32 verse 1. And Jacob, I’m pretty much, if you don’t mind, read verses 1-8.

Jacob: Job 32:1?

Timothy: Yes, 32:1-8.

Jacob: “So these three men stopped answering Job because he was righteous in his own eyes. But Elihu son of Barakel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, became very angry with Job for justifying himself rather than God. He was also angry with the three friends, because they had found no way to refute Job, and yet had condemned him. Now Elihu had waited before speaking to Job because they were older than he. But when he saw that the three men had nothing more to say, his anger was aroused.”

Timothy: Now go ahead.

Jacob: “So Elihu son of Barakel the Buzite said, “I am young in years, and you are old; that is why I was fearful not daring to tell you what I know. I thought ‘Age should speak; advanced years should teach wisdom.’ But it is the spirit in a man, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding.”

Timothy: One of the things Love about Job. It just really kind of flips everything around. What would you say if you had to put a botPaul-line message to what is the meaning of Job?” What is God trying to tell us? What’s that neon billboard sign that he’s got out there that he’s trying to communicate to all of us?

Timothy: That we should all shut up.

Jacob: Yep.

Timothy: We should all quit the debate. We should all quit the talk. Just shut up. He let Job’s friends and Job and them just hassle this out. You think it was a Bible convention or a Sunday school thing or ever a bunch of pastors getting together to talk about scripture. It would go on and on and on and on. No wonder God had to wait so long. He had to wait for everybody’s words just to run out. Then we see that it’s a young person who rebukes all the older people. So, God is really teaching us that you need to be looking for where wisdom comes from. Whether it’s from me or not. No matter whether young or old, because I’m the one that gives wisdom and true insight.

When I was a very young Christian and a young man, I started hm talking to people. Rebukes, okay, I rebuked elders and people in the church. They just weren’t doing what scripture said, right? What I always heard was, well when you’re older you’ll understand. I was told that all the time. The problem was by the time I got older; they wouldn’t even be around but I would never be old enough because they would always be older than me. so, God just takes this big book of Job and let’s this whole discussion and all this dialogue go on and it’s the young person who introduces God coming in a storm cloud to allow God to do the work. We need to look for the wisdom of God in everyone and everything that we can. You test everything. Don’t get me wrong. But God will use a donkey.

He’ll speak through all kinds of people. Even the people that are maybe not even Christians or semi or you look down upon especially. He might bring some wisdom and knowledge there. That’s kind of the message is it doesn’t matter whether you’re young or old I speak through whom I want to speak and I can give wisdom to anybody that I choose. He looks for the humble to do that. Jacob, any thoughts on that?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Go ahead and then read verses 9-12.

Jacob: “It is not only the old who are wise, not only the aged who understand what is right. “Therefore, I say: listen to me; I too will tell you what I know. I waited while you spoke, I listened to your reasoning; while you were searching for words. I gave you my full attention. But not one of you has proved Job wrong; none of you has answered his arguments.”

Timothy: Want to point out here the respect of this young man he was doing token listening. You know how people are or whatever they’ll act like they’re listening but, in their mind, they’re just going to respond. They’re not hearing anything you’re saying. I find that a lot. Well in a lot of different ways in life but especially if someone’s given a project, I could say anything up front because they’re not paying attention. So, I always spell it out up front but then they’ll go, okay, so now what do you want? And then you got to go back at it. It’s just human nature. It’s sinful human nature. We don’t want to listen. We are Gods. We’re above all of that kind of thing.

So, this young man is obviously has some real righteousness and he waited and he listened and he’s meditating. and he’s thought for sure, okay they’re all going to get to a point here. He wasn’t interested in himself making the point he’s thinking, okay, these aged people, they’re going to put Job in the corner or Job’s going to have a good answer. So, he’s waiting for them to come up with the knowledge. This isn’t the self-righteous arrogance we see today where young people are supposedly smarter than adults and everybody. This is somebody in humility that is really listening to what they’re saying and expecting by the time it’s all everything will be in its proper place. And then all of a sudden when he realizes, oh, they don’t have anything else to say, Job doesn’t have anything to say, hey, then he starts getting mad. He says, “There’s no excuse for this kind of truth not to be out there.”

In Job chapter 38 verse 1 we’re going to set the scene it says, “Young man who introduces the storm for by which Job is going to be rebuked.” Again, Jacob why don’t you read Job chapter 38:1-3.

Timothy: “Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm. He said: “Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me.”

Mid Point

Jacob: I probably shouldn’t say that but I love verse 2. I’ve quoted that many times to people who come in and I’ve quoted to myself many times. “Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?” Wow. That that is just one powerful direct point. So, it goes on to say, the Lord is introducing this and getting this ready right? And then in verse 3 says, “Brace yourself like a man.” Okay, we’re going to dialogue here. you have to appreciate the power of God and the humility of God. In the Book of Revelation anytime they meet the Lord. They fall down as dead and have to be risen up. Ezekiel some of the old prophets, right? God comes to them and you’re just devastated. But not in this case. God comes from a storm and yet Job is still able to respond. He’s still able to listen is kind of a testimony to the perseverance of Job or the stoutness to him to just stand his ground or I guess the strongest of our arguments with God with sometimes we just won’t give things up, right?

So, we’re ready to argue with God or debate with God. So, God says, okay, “I’m going to come on your terms and I’m going to come with the storm. But brace yourself like a man and get ready.” Appeals to ego. He appeals to everything that a man is it’s like okay stand up and let’s get on with it. I got a few questions for you God is saying. And he goes, “You shall answer me.” It’s not a game and we’re all done. I want answers on this. So, this isn’t God just crushing us or God trying to push us down into nothing to where you can’t answer. That’s what the world does. When people debate in fact some of the famous people say, well, the purpose of debate is to humiliate your opponent. Well, that’s not what God is doing God is not humiliating Job in that worldly sense. He said, you will answer me, you shall do it. We’re going to dialogue you’re going to be a man. I’m going to come You and you need to be clear back.

So, now we got to jump all the way because we’re going to come back and play some of these rebukes and what God went on. Let’s go to Job chapter 42 verse 1. And this is the blessing of Job. This is what we all want or we should want from our Job days. Job chapter 42 verse 1, “Then Job replied to the Lord:” And that’s going to be significant again once and I know I’m repeating myself. But once we play these audio files, he still Able to answer. The humility of God that would come in dialogue with such questions and in such power and still allow us room to talk. Is amazing God, a God of love. Job 42 verse 1. “I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted.” He still has that courage or the part that is true to say to God, okay, I know this to be true.

“You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my counsel without not knowledge?’ Surely, I spoke of things I did not understand, and things too wonderful for me to know.” Verse 4, “You said.” Job is saying to the Lord, “You said, listen now, and I will shall speak; I will question, and you shall answer me.” So, he paid attention to what God was saying. Verse 5, “My ears have heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.” That is the blessing of Job. All the arguments, at the end of the day all the debates about scripture and all these are meaningless. You want to see the Lord; you want to fellowship with him. He is the truth. He will make everything clear but look at the condition that it leaves Job in. “My ears have heard,” oh sorry, “My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.”

Verse 6, “Therefore, I despise myself and repent in the dust and ashes.” I’m pausing there. “Therefore, I despise myself.” What? You mean to tell me he didn’t sit down in the dust and scrape his skin with clay and went all through kinds of stuff. I thought he despised himself. Nothing compares to this despising of self. We’re talking self-down to everything we are and then we repent in the dust. We are as low as dust. That is the blessing of Job. How few men have that blessing. A lot of people have a large family. A lot of people have wealth. The meaning what God brought afterwards. God is full of mercy. He heals. But most people think that is the blessing. No, this verse 6 is the blessing and we’re going to begin to examine in future shows why we need Jesus Christ. Because it’s not communicated out there effectively at all and you’re not going to like it unless you become like Job. “Therefore, I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.” Jacob, any comments before we press on?

Jacob: No, other than yeah, it’s kind of incredible almost I guess the relationship God has with Job or certainly that it came to. I think of Moses and the Lord and how Moses talked like face to face with God. And this is almost a similar thing. “Now my eyes have seen you.” So, there is it’s only through all of the sufferings and the rebukes and all of that before you have this closeness to God.

Timothy: Both of you and I can testify to a small taste of this that we have persevered and the blessing of fellowship with God doesn’t compare to any of those sufferings. Let’s take a short selah moment because we’re going to play the rebukes God brings to Job and listen to those and meditate on those. But let’s take a pause and a break.
Selah Moment:

Timothy: Alright, let’s brace ourselves like a man and in this all-inclusive stage that it does also include mankind by the way. But let’s brace ourselves like a man and begin to just listen to the rebukes God brings to Job. And keep in mind it doesn’t come with a few questions or can you answer this and kind of hone it in. He’s like this is why it’s impressive that Job God does in such a way that Job is still able to answer him at the end. I mean that’s pretty amazing if in the world we devour each other in debates, and we just shame each other to make them look stupid to leave them speechless we find to be our goal.

I’ve watched pastors and people do that so much even preaching the gospel. You just try to make the other person shut up. That is not a lowly God. That is not our holy God that we worship. That’s not love. I never set out to just shame somebody and put them in a corner to shut up to say, I won. Ever. That is deep serious sin. Jacob start the first, so there’s three files there we’re going to listen to. I may stop in there and cut things I’ll try not to so let’s meditate on this before the Lord.

Video: Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm. He said: “Who is this that darkens my council with words without knowledge?” Brace yourself like a man; I will question you and you shall answer me. “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you are stand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched the measuring line across it? On what were its footing set, or who laid its cornerstone- while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? “Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness, When I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, when I said, ‘This far you may come and no father; here is where your proud waves halt’?’
Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. The wicked are denied their light; and their unpraised arm is broken. “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep? Had the gates of been shown to you? Have you seen the gates of the shadow of death? Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth? Tell me, if you know all this.” “What is the weight of the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the past to their dwellings? Surely you know, for you were already born! You’ve lived so many years.

“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, which I reserve for times of trouble, For days of war in battle? What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed, or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth? Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain and a path for the thunderstorm, to water a land where no man lives, a desert with no one in it, to satisfy a desolate wasteland and make it sprout with grass? Does the rain have a father? Who fathers the drops of dew? From whose womb comes the ice? who gives birth of the frost from the heavens when the waters become hardest stone, when the surface of the deep is frozen?

“Can you bind the beautiful Pleiades? Can you lose the cords of Orion? Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the bear with its cubs? Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God’s dominion over the earth?” Can you raise your voice to the clouds and cover yourself with the flood of water? Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’? Who endowed the heart with wisdom or gave understanding to the mind? Who has the wisdom to count the clouds? Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens when the dust becomes hard and the clouds of earth stick together?” Do you hunt to pray for the lioness and satisfy the hunger of the lions when they crouch in their dens or lie and wait in the ticket? Who provides food of the raven when its young cry out to God and wander about for lack of food. (Job 38:1-41).

Timothy: You get a sense of how you should. We don’t know anything. There’re so many times in the past when I’m talking to people and people always want to debate or some people do and questions come up or whatever and I’ll say, I don’t know. And people have been surprised because they never hear a pastor say kind of, I don’t know. I don’t know if you remember or not when we were on our trip to Israel we were the tour group. So, there was all kinds of different religious aspects some were unbelievers some were believers some were Jewish and so on. We’re sitting at the table was always this kind of undertow of serious debate back and forth because everybody had an opinion. And one point I made a comment about the demons that went into the pigs and they rushed off the cliff and they were drowned and I said, yeah, pigs don’t drowned. And the person sitting next to me said, that’s not true. And I said, well, you know I’m not going to argue the point. I don’t know for sure. I don’t know that fact that’s it’s not the crucial action. It was more blunt like I don’t know. And his wife turned to you actually and said, did you see that?

I don’t know if you notice or not because it was a very quick, fast exchange. There’re many things. Whatever. Many things. I mean, when you compare to the holiness of God and the scriptures and the power, even what I think I understand, doesn’t mean I have the power behind that to really grasp it, live it like I want to. I’m striving against the life that it’s impossible for me to live and so I cling ever more to Jesus Christ. Have anything you want to say there?

Jacob: No other than yeah how few times this is never preached in churches today. Everybody wants to show up and debate this or that or someone else is evil or not evil but nobody wants to sit in the dust and listen to God speak.

Timothy: And how quickly we think we’re correct.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: We don’t even assume we’re wrong in it so there’s no real testing that can even take place. God can’t come to us. Let’s play the next as God continues his rebuke.

Video: “Do you know when a mountain goats give birth? Do you watch when the doe bears have fawn? Do you count the months till they bear? Do you know the time they give birth? They crouch down and bring forth their young; their labor pains are ended. Their young thrive and grow strong in the wilds; they leave and do not return. “Who let the wild donkey go free? Who untied his ropes? I gave him the wasteland as his home, the salt flat as his habitat. He laughs at the commotion in the town; he does not hear a driver shout. He ranges the hills for his pasture and searches for any green thing. “Will the wild ox consent to serve you? Will he stay by your manger at night? Can you hold him to the furrow with a harness? Will he till the valleys behind you? Will you rely on him for his great strength? Will you leave your heavy work to him? Can you trust him to bring in your grain and gather it to your threshing floor?

“The wings of the ostrich flap joyfully, but they cannot compare with the pinions and feathers of the stalk. She lays her eggs on the ground and lets them warm in the sand, unmindful that a foot may crush them, that some wild animal may trample them. She treats her young harshly, as if they were not hers; she cares not that her labor was in vain, for God did not endow her with wisdom or give her a share of good sense. Yet when she spreads her feathers to run, she laughs at horse and rider. “Do you give the horse his strength or clothe his neck with a flowing mane? Do you make him leap like a locust, striking terror with his proud snorting? He paws fiercely, rejoicing in his strength, and charges into the fray. He laughs at fear, afraid of nothing; he does not away from the sword. The quiver rattles against his side along with the flashing spirit and lance. In frenzied excitement he eats up the ground; he cannot stand still when the trumpet sounds. At the blast of the trumpet he snorts, ‘Aha!’. He catches the scent of battle from afar, the shout of commanders and the battle cry.
“Does the hawk take flight by your wisdom and spread his wings toward the south? Does the eagle soar your command and build his nest on high? He dwells on a cliff and stays there at night; a rocky crag is his stronghold. From there he sneaks out his food; his eyes detected from afar. His young ones feast on blood, and with a slain are, there is he.” The Lord said to Job, “Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him? Let him who accuses God answer him!” Then Job answer the Lord: “I’m unworthy-how can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth. I spoke once, but I have no answer, twice, but I will say no more.” Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm: “Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. “Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself? Do you have an arm like God’s, and can your voice thunder like his? Then adorn your with glory and splendor, and clothe yourself in honor and majesty. Unleash the fury of your wrath, look at every proud man and bring him low, look at every proud man and humble him, crush the wicked where they stand. Bury them all in the dust together; shroud their faces in the grave. Then I myself will admit to you that your own right hand can save you.

“Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you in which feeds on grass like an ox. What strand he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! His tail always like a cedar; the sinus of his thighs are close-knit. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God, yet his maker can approach him with his sword. The hills bring him their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby. Under the lotus plant he lies, hidden among the reeds and the marsh. The lotus is seal him in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround him. When the river rages, he is not alarmed; He is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth. Can anyone capture him by the eyes, or trap him and pierce his nose? (Job 40:1-24).

Timothy: You know Jacob are right in the middle of why I’ve been so heavily slandered that I’m a cult leader or that I just want people to follow me or anybody that happens to associate with me of course is accused of what?

Jacob: Being brainwashed.

Timothy: Brainwashed is just following a man. These scriptures we’re listening to explains why that slander rises up so fast so powerfully and why there’s his aversion. Because remember at the end of this Job 42 verse 6, Job says, Therefore, I despise myself and repent in the dust and ashes.” I point them and tell them I plead with them. Show them the way. I beg. I’m not going to go too far on this at the moment. To what? Seek the living God.
Well, if you seek the living God. This is going to be some experiences in your life. You’re going to have to go to the cross. He’s going to direct to the cross it won’t be me doing it and he’s very effective at it. That’s why so many churches that quote unquote preach the message of the cross.

Since it’s not God really leading them to be crucified a man can tolerate it, he can control it, so that those congregations can flourish. When you begin to discover there’s power in what I’m saying and that this is really true and God will begin to just come to you and ask you a few questions. He will speak everybody says that they want God to come to them and they listen to God and God knows their heart and all that, right?

Well, this is the kind of God that we’re supposed to consider. We’re supposed to consider Job. And why consider Job? Because James knew everybody’s Going to experience and have to some degree or another Job days or Job in the heart or the questions God comes to our conscience. He can be relentless and powerful and he’s going to go until we give up self-till we actually know 100% that we despise ourselves and on top of that we’re ready to repent in dust. Alright, Jacob take us to the last set of rebukes and let’s meditate on all this before the Lord.

Video: “Can you pull in the Leviathan with a fish hook or tie down his tongue with a rope? Can you put a cord through his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he keep begging you for mercy? Will he speak to you with gentle words? Will he make an arrangement with you for you to take him as your slave for life? Can you make a pet of him like a bird or put him on a leash for your girls? Will traders barter for him? Will they divide him up among the merchants? Can you fill his hide with harpoons or his head with fishing spears? If you lay a hand him, you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

Any hope of subduing him is false; the mere sight of him is overpowering. No one is fierce enough to rouse him. Who then is able to stand against me? Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me. “I will not fail to speak of his limbs, his strength and his graceful form. Who can strip off his outer coat? Who would approach him with a bridle? Who dares open the doors of his mouth, ringed about with his fearsome teeth? His back has rows of shields tightly sealed together; each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. They are joined to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. His snorting throws out flashes of light; his eyes are like rays of dawn. Fire breaths steam from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds. His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from his mouth.

Strength resides in his neck; Dismay goes before him. The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. His chest is hard as a rock, hard as a lower millstone. When he rises up, the mighty are terrified, they retreat before his thrashing. The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or dart of the javelin. Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood. Arrows do not make him flee; slingstones are like chaff to him. A club seems to him but a piece of straw; he laughs at the rattling of the lance. His undersides a jagged potsherd, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge. He makes the depths churn like a boiling cauldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment. Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; one would think the deep had white hair. Nothing on earth is his equal- a creature without fear. He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud.”
Then Job replied to the Lord: “I know you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted. You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?’ Surely, I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know.
“You said, ‘Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer me.’ My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.

Therefore, I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.” After the Lord had these things to Job, he said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “I am angry with you and your friends, because you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. So now take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. You have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has.”

So Eliphaz the Tamanite, Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar, the Naamathite did what the Lord told them; and the Lord accepted Job’s prayer. After Job had prayed for his friends, the Lord made him prosperous again and gave him twice as much as he had before. All his brothers and sisters and everyone who had known him before came and ate with him in his house. They comforted and consoled him. Over all the trouble the Lord had brought upon him, and each one gave him a piece of silver and a gold ring. The Lord blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the first. He had 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, a 1,000 yoke of oxen and 1,000 donkeys. And he also had seven sons and three daughters. The first daughter he named Jemima, the second Keziah. And the third Karen-Happuch. Nowhere in all the land where they have found women as beautiful as Job’s daughters, and their father granted them an inheritance along with their brothers. After this Job lived a and 40 years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation, and so he died old and full of years. (Job 42:1-17). (Job chapters 3:8-42). The Consider Podcast. Today’s events, Paulorrow’s realities. www.consider.info

Outro: This has been the Consider Podcast at www.consider.info where yesterday’s folly is today’s madness. In the beginning, the unrepentant sinners words are folly. At the end, they are wicked madness. Ecclesiastes 10:13. Judgement begins with the house of God. Therefore, let everyone who loves the Lord with an undying love pick up their cross and walk the talk. As Peter the wrote. “Therefore, prepare your minds for action. Be self-controlled”. First Peter 1:13-14. The Considered Podcast, examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities. www.consider.info.


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