Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom, and also madness and folly.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Who put darkness for light and light for darkness. Who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20.
Let’s talk about the last penny.
Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we turn our minds to consider wisdom, madness, and folly. Join the host, Timothy and Jacob on a quest to have God enlighten the mind according to verse 25 of Ecclesiastes chapter 7.
So, I turned my mind to understand, to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things, and to understand the stupidity of wickedness and the madness of folly. Ecclesiastes 7:25.
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Timothy: We’re continuing to talk about Eau de cult or the fact that I’ve been slanderously accused of being a cult leader. And the churches that I’ve preached at over the years have been accused of being a part a cult, and what nonsense that is. But today we’re going to talk about the last penny. That is, let’s do a best-case scenario. And I’m going to kind of choke on the word here, Jacob. Because we’re going to talk about, we’re going to assume for just a second that all of these people that persecuted and prosecuted are Christians. And again, like I said, I’m choking on the word, but.
Jacob: Sure. Like benefit of the doubt.
Timothy: Yeah, that’s right. We’ll give them benefit of the doubt.
Jacob: We’ll take them at their word.
Timothy: One prosecutor thinks he’s on a holy calling and many of the others think they’re Christians. The people that have attacked since, I’ve been preaching since the 1970s. And so, there’s this kind of a baseline group of people that led up to the persecution and the prosecution. Okay, again, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re Christians. So, we’re going to look that, okay, even if they are Christians, even if I just accept that basic logic that they come to me and go, well, we’re Christians too, and they’d have some excuses to go down the line. All right, I’ll give you that. Let’s begin to look then at what Jesus says will happen to you because you are not repenting.
And this goes back from all the way the people that have been following since the seventies, undermining, destroying, developing bad attitudes, poisoning people’s minds against me. And so, it builds up, it comes to this kind of volcanic moment in which then the governing authorities get involved because they’ve stirred them up. And these people know, and they’ve honed over the years exactly what to tell the itching ears of prosecutors and police, what they want to know. So, it isn’t like this just kind of happened out of nowhere or there’s anything credible. They continue to reinforce one lie after another. I encourage people to read the book Eau de Cult, or better yet, how about just read the New Testament. It reminds me of Acts chapter 14 verse 2. Jacob, you want to go over to that? Acts chapter 14, verse 2. I’ll let you read that.
Jacob: But the Jews who refuse to believe stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brothers.
Timothy: That’s essentially what happened. You can’t get any more clear than that. So, we’re going to talk about, suppose they continue not to repent, but claim to be Christians. Because I know what a lot of people are thinking. Well, Jesus would cover my mistake, or yeah, none of us are perfect. Okay, never mind. You destroyed a whole true group of people, you caused little ones to stumble and there’s innocent individual in jail, and so on.
As it’s become self-evident among the prosecutor class and our judicial system, if we can even call that anymore. They’re wanting to please the mob. The mob is wanting to be pleased. They kind of stroke each other’s back, and this is exactly what happened to Jesus Christ. The religious leaders and those that were united with them opposed Jesus.
Well, they didn’t quite have the authority to do what they wanted to do to Jesus. So, who did they go to, Jacob?
Jacob: They went to the Romans.
Timothy: That’s right. They went to the Romans, the governing authorities. And they knew the lie to bring up. They knew the emotions to bring. It’s a cult. There’s a curse upon the whole crowd, the Pharisees will say. They’ll accuse Jesus of being part of Beelzebub and all kinds. He’s just this massive evil person. And so together they combine their efforts and crucifies Jesus. We’ll see here in a moment, that’s the same thing that happened to us, and that’s the same thing happening to those good saints that are actually faithful to Jesus Christ.
The bottom line is, prosecutors want to please the crowd, and the crowd, of course wants to be pleased. And now we find a total corruption. I mean a hundred percent corruption of the legal system in the United States. Let’s look at Mark chapter 15 verse 15. And it explains exactly why Pilate gave into the crowd. Again, Jacob, I’ll let you read that.
Jacob: Mark chapter 15 verse 15. Wanting to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas to them. He had Jesus flogged and handed him over to be crucified.
Timothy: As we look at the prosecutor class that takes place in the judicial system, they do not care. People really need to get this to their head. They do not care whether you’re innocent or guilty. It really doesn’t matter to them. They just want to know if they can win the case. That’s why they’re so devoid of truth, although use the words truth because that’s how you gain convictions among simple-minded people or fools. But they’re not interested in anything remotely to do with truth. And if you think I’m exaggerating, give me a buzz and I’ll be more than happy to debate the facts with you. But I’ll warn you, I operate on evidence. I don’t know what the prosecutors operate on. Well, I do know, they operate on what? Wanting to satisfy the crowd.
So, Pilate released Barabbas, which was another thief. And the mobs and the crowds, they always go for thieves. Jacob, have you ever heard of a mob that did a bunch of good deeds?
Timothy: It doesn’t happen. Anytime there’s a mob there, nobody says, oh, let’s you know, let’s go feed the poor, let’s go feed the homeless, or let’s go do this, or let’s go clean up the city and pick up the trash.
Jacob: Yeah, let’s go pick up the trash and you know, do some landscaping for old grandmas who can’t do it.
Timothy: All this protesting going on and all the violence. You never find these groups, and name them getting together and then all of a sudden like spontaneously, oh, let’s go do some good deeds and bless a bunch of people. It just never happens. You don’t find any parades going, you know, let’s go help clean up this church over here, or let’s go dialogue with these Christians over here. Goodness never happens. Prosecutors feed off the crowds and the crowds feed off the prosecutors. And this is one reason among many why there are so much, so much injustice just flooding the land.
And this happened to us about 10 years ago roughly. So, things were just beginning to brew up at that point. And because, Prosecutors got by with, and police got by with the crowd that came to motivate them, it really is part of the explosion. I’m not trying to be narcissistic here, meaning that just because of us. What I mean is, we were just kind of on the forefront of it among some other people also out there, and now you just finding explosions become self-evident.
If I’d have said this, well, I did say it 10 years ago, nobody believed you. Now it’s at least believable whether or not you want to stand up for the truth. That’s a whole different issue. So, let me repeat this, Jacob, show the picture of me as a young preacher. Now, the first thing, what’s the first thing you notice in that picture?
Jacob: Wood panelling.
Timothy: Yeah, I noticed I have hair.
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: Ever since I’ve been having you cut my hair, I keep losing more and more hair. I’m thinking about finding a good lawyer. I don’t know what’s going on there. All right. So, I’ve been preaching early on once Jesus Christ got a hold of me in one form or another. And there literally was, like I said, there was, I’m very active in preaching the gospel, meaning, or living the gospel. Most people aren’t going to relate to the terms I’m saying. But I started out when there was like DOS 2.01, when it was called Bulletin Board Systems. I dialogued; we did conventions. I don’t know if you remember any of that now. You were pretty young, Jacob, but I was pretty busy. So began living the gospel for many, many years.
And there were certain individuals that just kept falling around quietly, underneath in the darkness, which will be revealed later on. Stirring up and honing their arguments, honing their slander. I’m reminded there’s one passage that says, the mob came together and the crowd came together, but most people didn’t even know why they were there. So, you even had this whole base of people that hated me, hated the church, hated the message, but never researched the message, never talked to me, never even visited the church, even the police that slanderously, I mean, way out. You got to understand, this policeman is your typical Pharisee or Sadducees, Baptist, which I’m not condemning all Baptist, but he’s just one of those people that needs to be condemned.
He believes you should only use the King James’s Bible. He is locked in his own bigotry and his own lies, and so he gathered around himself other people that would reinforce the same lies. This thing kept building on. That took at least 10 years, but it finally culminated in them being able to manipulate. And I won’t go into all the details right now, of a false accuser, and then everything busted loose. Jacob, at the end of this video, put the list down if people want to go and look at some of the facts. I encourage you to do it, but on the other hand, I’d say, I encourage you not to do it.
It’s very much an onion type event. And it just depends on what level you’re peeling off to get to the truth. There’s a lot to this. And I really stumble over even talking about, because which angle do you want to come out with it? The corruption within the legal system. The, the religious corruption, the animosity and hatred tthat was just general. I remember just, to kind of get people a spiritual battle going on. I had done a sermon and we had a free section in the bookstore that we had in this town where people would come just get, well back then it was tapes, I think we had CDs for a while. And in one of those messages or a track, I made the point that you can live a long time without food, but you can’t live a long time without water. Meaning you could go about three days; I think he mentioned.
And then there was a lady in town, literally running around in town, just mouthing off to everybody how wrong I was, that you really can live longer without water. Well, now the point isn’t whether I’m right or wrong in that. The point is, what I’m getting at is, there is a spiritual battle for which Satan stirs up people, and that created a lot of animosity. And then Satan, of course, has his influence on people that are not disciples of Jesus. So, it’s easy to see how these spreads. And I don’t have time to go into other scriptures that would kind of show this. But I’m trying to give you an idea that ever since I started preaching as a young pup all the way up till now, the same lie, the slam slander, no matter how weak I preached it or how little I lived it, it was just an underlying theme that continued to be presented until a time that a certain individual just brought that together and stirred it up and destroyed a lot of people.
So, the prosecutors, the police, obviously the police wanted to do the thing, but the prosecutors wanting to satisfy the crowd went for it. I mean, they salivate for this stuff. They probably even believe it. All right, so what we’re talking about today is we’re assuming that everybody involved, and I’m talking bureaucrats who move paperwork, I’m talking about people in different churches. This applies to anybody that either actively supported, and I’m going to refer to it as a hate crime because that’s what it was, the hate crime, or did whatever they did to inflame the situation needs to repent.
And I don’t care, and we’re assuming they claim to be Christians forgiven by Jesus Christ.
We’re going to see what Jesus has to say about this situation. And let’s see if the obedience equals that. It’s really a warning, it’s an offering. It’s a lot of things mixed together. Jacob, go ahead and play the Perverts of Jurisprudence file.
There are sexual perverts of all kinds. There are those who kill their father and mothers. There are those who are adulterers, rebels, and downright ungodly. There are liars, perjures, and false witnesses. Then there are perverts of jurisprudence. Today’s prosecutors who defile truth, facts, and the law. First Timothy chapter one verses 8-11.
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Timothy: That’s so self-evident today that it’s almost not even worth playing the video. Jacob, let’s go to Matthew chapter 10 verse 24. A lot of people that, well, I don’t know the facts, I don’t know the situation. I’d have to study both sides. I’d have to examine everything. No, all you need to do is start living the gospel yourself. Go ahead and read Matthew 10:24-25, Jacob.
Jacob: A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for the student to be like his teacher and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household.
Timothy: Clearly, I’m not Jesus Christ and clearly, I have not even claimed to be anything significant in Jesus Christ. I don’t claim to be a prophet. I don’t claim to be anything special. I’m just merely a servant that’s in love with Jesus Christ. And because of that, I’ve been called a cult leader, demonic. One of the saddest situations that happened, my wife was dying of a brain tumor. She received a letter written to her. Unfortunately, I intercepted the letter, opened it and read it. And in this letter this woman wrote that she was sure I was going to hell, what an evil vile man I was or am. Laying all that out and she went on to say, and I’m sure you’re going to heaven. I don’t doubt for you, but your husband’s doomed.
Now think about the ungodliness of that. Somebody dying of a brain tumour and you’re sending that kind of letter. So, this is the atmosphere that’s going on here. And the reason I bring that up is, Jesus Christ, who was holy, who is pure, who went around doing good deeds, was perfect in every way. And I’m not perfect. I don’t even do miracles. I have never raised anybody from the dead. I am way, way, way down on the list. But Jesus Christ is perfect. He’s the holy one. And he was called Beelzebub. How much more the members of his household. I have fault. I was in the process of growing. I’m still growing. You could still point at things and go, well, that’s not exactly of Jesus Christ, or It’s not that, that’s nothing that’s of the hypocrisy level or way out there. This is not a kind of gospel. I’m not offering you a smiling Jack Jesus. What I’m pointing out to you is, because I have fault or I don’t know everything a person’s going to say, so I can’t anticipate how to respond. I don’t have infinite wisdom. I’m stumbling along like everybody else. I’m reminded the passage in Job where Job says, why would you attack this man, this tottering fence, this tottering wall.
At best, I’m a tottering wall and a fence. So that opens up a lot more accusations you have to deal with because you can’t come back with the power of Jesus Christ in every situation like Jesus Christ. That make sense, Jacob?
Jacob: Yeah, it makes sense.
Timothy: So how much more the members of his household. The point being here at this juncture is if you want the truth about this situation, and most people don’t want the truth, they don’t even want to deal with it, but they don’t mind believing the lies. If you want to know what truth is, you start falling closer to Jesus Christ and you will be called all these things, you will be driven out of town. And again, this isn’t too hard to believe today because a lot of Christians are being, if you take on that label, you’re being booted out everywhere. We were just a little bit of the curve. Anything you want to add to that, Jacob?
Jacob: No, not really. Other than what you’re saying is true, I know that.
Timothy: All right. Well, let’s press onto Matthew 26 verse 3. Pointing out, once again, the plotting nature of what’s been going on. I have, well, really too much boxes of junk of all that would happen for 30 or 40 years, however long I’ve been preaching of people plotting behind the scenes or making derogatory things over here, or putting pressure on people or really twisting a whole lot of things. I mean, I would receive emails that would go, yeah, so and so would never do such a thing. Of course, they never tell me what it is that I did that was wrong. They just go, they just assume I know what they’re saying or that I’m, they don’t want to get into it because again, I might expose the false as they believe.
So, we read in Matthew 26, verse 3, Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the place of the high priest whose name was Caiaphas. What do we see here? Everybody’s coming together, and this is what happened. Over a period of time, all these different groups began to assemble together under one banner and come together.
Psalm says, they hardened a lie against me. So, in verse 4, it goes on to say, and they plotted, oh, they’ve been plotting and plotting and plotting. The big crime against, the governing authorities, no matter what level, whether it’s bureaucrat up or prosecutor down, or however you want to look at that, is that they refuse to look at the evidence. They refuse to consider anything that didn’t confirm the plot that was being put before them. So, the crime, the real sin that the deepest part of the sin on a fundamental starting level is, they just wouldn’t even examine anything. It was just, this was accepted, this was truth, we’re just going to mow over.
We see that happening almost to everybody today. It’s called Prosecution by extortion. And I don’t want to get too sidetracked because we’ll get to it. Hopefully the Lord let me get into this, or better yet, hopefully somebody might repent and then I can bypass it till the judgment day for the rest of the folks. We’ll see. Matthew chapter 26, verse 4, read it Jacob.
Jacob: And they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him.
Timothy: All this was about being sly about everything. Jacob, you were there, you went through the, like the end part of all this thing till we were scattered out of the town and innocent people accused of all kinds of things, and people set out to destroy other people.
It was, was it not sly?
Jacob: Oh, very sly.
Timothy: Sly and slimy, too many s’s. You have to understand the zeal too, of these people. This isn’t just some minor thing. And some people don’t really understand just how full of venom, hatred, self-righteousness, the policemen. Let me say it, nobody actually did their job. No matter what level this is at, to do your job means you investigate and you don’t move forward unless you actually have evidence. Nobody actually did their job. The, the fundamental job of the law on every level, the first thing is prosecutor or police is, is the person guilty? And when they don’t concern themselves with that truth, because really what people need to understand, if you serve on a jury, whatever, they’re not concerned with truth, they’re not concerned with whether you are honestly guilty or not. They’re only concerned with; can we present this to you and fool you to believe they’re guilty. Right Jacob?
Jacob: Correct. They want to present the case in such a way as to win. You said it earlier, but that’s what prosecutors do all across the board. They’re only showing the evidence and their side of the story in order to manipulate the jury to believe them. That’s what they all do.
Timothy: The reason I’m repeating that, it’s really hard. I think it’s taken me a while to believe that people are so zealous like that, they tune out facts, truth, evidence and effort. Isn’t that kind of hard? Because if you were like arrested or brought in, you think rationally about the situation. Right Jacob?
Timothy: You think, okay, this is what I’m being accused of, this is my defense, and you go through all the reasonable things you could present to show that you’re not guilty, right?
Timothy: It’s hard to believe that when you go to talk to prosecutors or police, they’re snakes that can’t be charmed. No matter what you say, they’re not interested in any of those things. And there’s a real disconnect between people’s minds, what they think the justice system is up to and what it’s really up to.
Jacob: Correct. You know, I think of, it used to be when you worked for the government, whether you’re a police officer, prosecutor, or judge, whatever. You used to be referred to as a public servant. You’re paid by taxpayer dollars. You are a public servant. But now they beat down everybody so that we are like the servants to them. Even when you talk about like juries and jury selection, all they’re doing is looking for people to manipulate to get their agenda. Not only is there not any justice, truth, evidence, facts, there’s no service. There’s no service to the people. There’s only their agenda.
Timothy: Now I want to add in, and this is the point I’m trying to get to is, the detective that believed in the King James Bible only. Most people can’t relate to that doctrine. Right, Jacob? I mean, it’s an antiquated doctrine and there aren’t enough congregations I think, that run around going, The King James Bible is the only Bible.
Jacob: Correct. I was stopping only because a lot of people, it’s like one extreme or the other. Either you have, I don’t even know what it’s called. The Bible where everything’s so watered down to nothing and like that’s easily accepted. And then there’s the acceptance that we have to read the super old version that totally doesn’t actually speak in our words today. There’s like both, there’s like two extremes.
Timothy: Correct. So, the detective, and I keep saying this a lot, but the detective is so full of zeal to prosecute, most people can’t relate to that. You have to really think back to the 1600s or when England was going through the reformation
Jacob: And there’s like a holy zealot.
Timothy: Yeah, when they’re burning people at the state
Jacob: No matter what, I am going to do this, no matter what.
Timothy: I’ve been watching several History type things, listening to the books, you know, they would torture people and the logic behind the torture was, well, if I can get them to recant their protestant beliefs, I’ll save their soul. But they’re doing it under torture. These people didn’t go away. They’ve just changed uniforms. And so, the policeman abused his power. The prosecutors support the police no matter what, unless of course prosecution then promotes themselves and so on. Matthew chapter 27 verse 25. Jacob, read it before I get too long-winded on this.
Jacob: 27:25. All the people answered, let His blood beyond us and our children.
Timothy: I’m going to read that again. All the people answered. And the situation is this, Jesus is for trial before Pilates. And they’re just going, crucify him, crucify him, crucify him. That attitude. They are so sure of their position or so full of emotion with what they’re doing. Look at what they say to the governing authorities and before God, these are religious people, right? Let his blood be on us and on our children. This is the kind of zeal, unholy zeal that we bumped into this. This is what came materializing and came up. They may believe we’re a cult. They may believe all those lies. It doesn’t make them true. They believe Jesus needed to be crucified, but were they completely wrong?
Timothy: Completely wrong. And then of course, as the trial went on and things went on, nobody wanted to listen to anything we had to say. You’re not allowed to even present anything relevant that actually has to do with truth. The prosecutors and the judges own the courtroom, and they’re not going to let anything in there that interferes with their agenda. You can be sure of that. All right. Now let’s move a little bit forward to the last penny, because that’s the point of what we’re looking at today. Let’s assume that the judges involved really are Christians. Let’s assume that the prosecutors are really good. Let’s assume that the King James version only a police detective or non-detective really is a Christian, and somehow, they’re in that realm. In their minds because of the Smiling Jack Jesus out there, the , the televangelists, all the other mechanisms by which this empty gospel is put out, they no doubt believe they’re going to heaven. Correct Jacob?
Timothy: And that somehow Jesus is going to wipe through the thing, oh, they just made a mistake or they got this point wrong over here, or they didn’t mean for it to go this far. I don’t know what goes through people’s head. It would change with each individual.
Jacob: Well, and like you said, that’s best-case scenario because I’m pretty sure most people involved in the situation are still at the stage where they say they’re so sure of their actions, that they said, let this man’s blood be on ours and our children. So anyway, I’m just, you know. So now we’re only pivoting because in our situation, the people that were bringing such accusations are in that boat. So even to this day, they probably, unless their conscious is being pricked by something.
Timothy: Well, we can say for sure, none of them are repenting, a hundred percent.
Jacob: Correct. So, this is like a best-case scenario. Maybe there is one prosecutor on the prosecutor team, maybe there is you know, Again, because there was a lot of people involved. There’s a lot of people that threw on hate and persecution and lies. So yeah, now we’re sort of pivoting, we’re pivoting away from the police officer cause we kind of know what boat he’s in. You know, if we’re seeing best case scenario. So, we’re kind of moving because there’s that group and then now maybe somebody who is slightly bothered by what they did.
Timothy: Well, you bring up a good point. I’m trying to pivot and I can’t. Because I’m trying to call them Christians, which they aren’t Christians.
Jacob: Yeah. You can’t.
Timothy: A Christian would repent, but, okay. So, I’m trying to give them benefit of the doubt, but everything within that is truth is like, no, you can’t pivot there. But okay, I’m going to pivot there.
Jacob: We’re going to pivot. Well, so like you said, because we know what the truth is, but then we’re going to pivot to their own words, which they say they’re a Christian. And then you would say, okay, fine. If you say you’re a Christian, then we’re moving on.
Timothy: And as a side note, I’d be willing to go there if I saw even a glimmer of repentance. God’s not going to pull out a smoldering wick. I’m not going to put out a smoldering wick. They may have to go deeper with their repentance and brokenness, but I’m thinking to the Psalm that says, you know, I’m for peace, but they’re for war. No matter how long God says I hold out my hand to you all day long. I mean, this has been years, almost I think we’re coming up on a decade now, and people have not repented and come forward to repent. All right, let’s pivot. Let’s pivot. Let’s go to Colossians chapter 3, verse 23. Let me know when you get there, Jacob.
Jacob: Colossians chapter 3 verse 23. I’m there.
Timothy: All right. Whatever you do, the scripture says, work at it with all your heart as working for the Lord, not for men. Would you say amen to that?
Timothy: Everybody would say, amen. Who’s he talking to? Who’s the audience that he’s dialoguing with? I’m assuming he is not talking to Pagans, unbelievers, right?
Jacob: No, he’s talking to the church, Christians.
Timothy: So, the church, they would probably all agree, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart is working for the Lord, not for men. Amens would go up. Yeah, I’m serving God. God knows my heart, all of that. Verse 24. Since you know that you’ll receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. Everybody wants the reward. And would they not be cheering on? Yes, I’ve got a reward. I’ve been working for God. God knows I’m on a holy calling and I’ve been prosecuting criminals for decades. I have a reward because I did it with all my heart, I did all these things. Let’s just give them the benefit of the doubt that they really are in a holy calling, they really are Christians, and they’ve just made a big boo boo, and it’s just a big mistake. All right?
So, work with all your heart, since you know that you’ll receive an inheritance from the Lord as reward, it is the Lord Christ you are serving. A lot of these people would say that’s what they’re doing. Some of the judges claim to be Christians. They claim they’re serving Jesus Christ. All right. Let’s look at verse 25 and let’s consider who he’s talking to. Let’s listen carefully to the warning. Jacob, go ahead.
Jacob: Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.
Timothy: Let’s pause and let that kind of sink in a little bit. Is he not talking to Christians? I’m repeating myself.
Jacob: Yes, he is.
Timothy: It’s obvious, right? He says, anyone that mean a pagan, an unbeliever, Baptist, Methodist, UPC, whatever initials are. Anyone who claims to be a Christian, you, are we not part of anyone?
Timothy: Anyone who does wrong, you cannot claim in this situation, especially, that somehow all of the evil things that were done and all the slander that was done and the harm that was done and in the way it was done, that you won’t be repaid for that because you’re a Christian. Paul is clear. God is clear. You’re serving Jesus Christ. If you do wrong as you’re serving Jesus Christ, what does God say? What does Paul say? What does ink on paper say? What is it we’re reading? Read it. Verse 25, Jacob.
Jacob: Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong and there is no favoritism.
Timothy: Everyone down through the decades that did not stand up and refute the lies that I’m a cult leader or this is a cult or any other lies, moving all the way forward to those who actively pursued false accusations that they could present and move forward. They searched in a lot of ways. I have not even begun to reveal all the different angles people came in. And claiming to be Christians will be repaid for that wrong. Let’s play the last penny.
Let us consider the Last penny. You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, RACA is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, you fool, will be in danger of the fire of hell. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there, remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother. Then come and offer your gift. Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge and the judge may hand you over to the officer and you may be thrown into prison. I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny. Matthew 5:21-26.
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Timothy: Let’s look at Matthew 5:26 there. It says, I tell you the truth. How often did Jesus say that to give us a heads up? Like what I’m telling you here, I’m serious about. I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny. He’s talking to anyone. Remember there will be as Colossians 3:25 said, anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong and there is no favoritism. This isn’t implying to your neighbor. This is applying to all of us. We all have to give an account before God.
And you might still believe that I am doctrinally in error, but the mechanisms and the way that you went about this are as ungodly as they get. This doesn’t say you go and repent and be at peace with this brother if you agree with everything he says. It’s if you did wrong, this is the one time when it’s okay to be narcissistic. It’s all about you. Did you do wrong? Did you not do right? Let’s read what Jesus says in verse 21. Jacob, why don’t you read, let’s go 21 and 22.
Jacob: You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, do not murder and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, Raca, is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, you fool will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Timothy: Been angry at me? Then you need to repent. But I tell you that anyone who’s angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. You might believe all or half or one third or one quarter or have a few questions left over, it’s not going to get you by. You’re not going to stand before God and go, well, Lord, yeah, I know I did a bunch of these things wrong and I wasn’t quite perfect in all these things. And yeah, I know all these bad things happened to a lot of people and there was a lot of destruction, but Lord, you know, I just didn’t quite know for sure and yeah, if I offended in any way or if I messed up with somebody, yeah, just forgive me. That’s not what this is saying.
But I tell you that anyone who’s angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. This is one reason why the last church I had at least had a small taste of the love of Jesus Christ. We took this seriously; this was like serious from the Holy Spirit. So, the anger, the frustration against one another, that was a repeatable sin. It never got up to all the way of full anger of saying, you fool, or you idiot, or racca or whatever.
But anyone who says, you fool will be in danger of the fire of hell, Jesus said. Didn’t say, well, if you claim to be a Christian, then you’re exempt from this particular passage. Anyone who says, you fool, looking down on us, just coming in with contempt, not treating us as fellow human beings, treating us as little lower on that rung and coming in with an attitude of well, we’re prosecutors, we’re police, we have judge, we got people behind us.
We’re roosters in front of our army and we can go marching up and down, and we’ve got this mob over here and we’ve collected this over here. If you’re running around saying, oh, they are fools, they’re idiots, are down there. Guess what? You are in danger. What does it say, Jacob? What does it say?
Jacob: You’ll be in danger of the fire of hell.
Timothy: Again, I’m choking because where is the conviction of this? If these people claim to be Christians, you’re trying to tell me the Holy Spirit hasn’t whispered in their ears? You’re in danger. The fires are there. Are their conscious that far gone? Are those that betrayed the truth and deserted in the time when they should have risen up and suffered for Jesus Christ? Do they really think they’re going to escape the fire of hell without repentance? You tell me Jacob; do they really believe that?
Jacob: Yeah, they must. Because otherwise you would’ve, at the very least, gotten a letter or a phone call or a message left. You know what I mean? If these people say they’re Christians, then at the very, very, very, very, very least, you were having a postcard, I’m sorry, I went too far on this. You know, even to continue to justify your actions moving forward according to scripture first you have to go, actually reconcile it is a very strong word. So even what I’m saying doesn’t really count. But again, there would be some sort of communication to say, I’m sorry about what I did. I’m sorry, I said you were a fool. I’m sorry that I got angry. I’m sorry. But no.
Timothy: And the truth is, they’re putting me below a fool. You’d go, fool, cult leader, you know, go down. So, you’re putting me at the bottom of, and really us anyone who follows Jesus Christ with all their heart, mind, soul, and strength. You’re putting them all the way at the bottom. And Jesus is saying to anyone, but I tell you that anyone who is angry, anyone who says, you fool will be in the danger of the fires of hell. You have to repent. There was somebody, I forget who it was, well I don’t forget, wrote a letter, post, blog, whatever you want to call it these days, that I owned everybody’s property and that I had this checking account and everybody would give me their money and I would, I guess return them the money. I don’t know what the mechanism was. And put it out as fact. I rebuked him publicly. I’ve called for repentance for years. He refuses to repent. And he definitely claims to be a Christian. I think he claims to be an elder. All kinds of stuff that are going on. What do they do when you’re reading these scriptures, when you’re praying before God and you just, what do you do? But anyone who says you fool, what do you do with that?
Jacob: I mean, if you’re actually asking the question, I think that you’re back to, well, they’re not really Christians. They’re like the Jewish people. They’re like Pharisees who say that you should die and your blood can be on their heads. I mean, that’s how confident they are. So, if they read, if they.
Timothy: That’s true. If you’re going to curse your children.
Jacob: Yeah. But really, I mean, they read this and they say, well, you’re not a brother, you’re evil and you’re wicked, you’re a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Therefore, this doesn’t apply to you. Therefore, I’m not going to do it. Which actually we circle back around and say that they’re not really a Christian. They’re the ones who are not a Christian at all.
Timothy: Well, we get that. I’m thinking of the curse on the children of the part, there was a flashback that just came to mind. I was with my wife, who at that time, she was in the process of the brain tumor being removed so she was weak. And we’re sitting at Panda express. And straight across from us is a mother with her young daughter. I’m bad with ages, so I’m going to go six or seven. Well, clearly, she knew me as the cult leader and giving me the nastiest, dirtiest look, and her daughter’s watching this, and she’s doing the same thing. You set into motion, that daughter will grow up to look down on anybody with contempt and never ask, well, what’s the truth here? Mommy said it was true or conveyed it. That child would not even at this point be able to reason or remember probably that event. But sitting down and looking the way they did and going through all of that, not telling what was said behind the scenes or talking with other people. This is not some abstract concept.
Children listen to what you say. Without even saying, well, curse me and our children, you are cursing your children by the underhandedness of the sin that went on here and not repenting of it. Alright, verse 23. So, what do we do with this? And I’m not going to do the usual sermon that dialogues about the fact that you got to go through this whole process to get into the inner temple, and there you’re offering your gift. And so, it would be a lot of work and a lot of effort to stop what you’re doing at that point and go back out. We all know that, okay. You’re in the middle of church. This is what this is saying. Therefore, if you’re offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you.
And let me be clear here, I have a lot against other people, so this is not some abstract, this is real. This is real. Verse 24, Leave your gift there in front of the altar. So, you’re all the way there. I don’t know, you’re bending down, you’re laying your gift before the living God, you’re doing the Christian thing. So, let’s again give them the benefit of the doubt that they really are Christians, they’re in there praying for God. They’re bringing their gift to God. They’re laying it down, and there remember that your brother has something against you. And if you don’t think I don’t have some justification for everything is against you, then gimme a buzz and we’ll just start reading through scripture. It’s kind of self-evident at this point.
Jesus says, leave your gift there in front of the altar. Just leave it. Don’t even grab up the gift, oh, I don’t want to lose my gif, I don’t want to lose the moment. That’s how little effort he wants you to make it convenient. Does that make any sense, Jacob?
Timothy: Because you’re there in front of the altar, there’s your gift, logic would kick in and go, oh man, I need to go repent, I can’t continue on. Well, let’s see. I need to tell the wife I’m going to do this and I need to tell my sons and daughters, I’m going over here and I better tell the pastor I’m going to this over here and here’s this gift. Well let me finish giving this gift because that’ll bless God and it’ll bless his work and this will be a good thing to do for God. I’ll pray a little bit more before I could, get myself all put together. Would that not be what people would do?
Jacob: That’s the logic.
Timothy: That’s the logic. Leave your gift there in front of the altar. There should have been no hesitation, no delay, nothing. The minute the conviction comes, I’ve watched from afar, people get convicted, I see what they’re doing, and they just delay, they delay, and they delay. And guess what? The conviction will disappear. And your conscience will become seared as with a hot iron, scripture says. And you will not be able to repent when it really does come down to the wire. Leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother. Then come and offer your gift. This is all about fellowship. You know, think about the logic of the situation. I clearly claim to be a Christian, correct, Jacob?
Timothy: A lot of these people involved claim to be a Christian, right?
Timothy: Well, come show me my error. There was no attempt to do such a thing. There was no like, well, here’s how you live this scripture, or I think you’re being wrong over here. There wasn’t even the normal. Of course, churches today, I doubt they even go to each other, but all right, first go and be reconciled with your brother. Then come offer your gift. Verse 25. Settle matters quickly with your adversary, who’s taking you to court. Oh, I’m headed to court. Believe me, I’m headed to court. I got the evidence. I keep going at it. God may start it in this world. I don’t know. He may have me delay, but that court date is coming.
Do it while you are still with him on the way or he may hand you over to the judge and the judge may hand you over to the officer and you may be thrown into prison. I believe this is in Luke, it says, thrown into prison to be tortured. But I’d have to go look it up to verify that. Verse 26, I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
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Where yesterday’s folly is today’s madness. In the beginning, the unrepentant sinners’ words are folly. At the end, they are wicked madness. Ecclesiastes 10:13
Judgment begins with the house of God. Therefore, let everyone who loves the Lord with an undying love pick up their cross and walk the talk. As Peter the Apostle wrote, therefore prepare your minds for action, be self-controlled. First Peter 1:13-14.
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