Video: Woe to those, who call, evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweat and sweet for bitter. (Isaiah 5:20). Woe to King County prosecutors of Seattle, Washington.
Timothy: Let’s talk about the last penny.
Intro: Welcome to the Consider Podcast where we turn our minds to consider wisdom, madness and folly. Join the host Timothy and Jacob on a quest to have God enlighten the mind according to verse 25 of Ecclesiastes chapter 7. So, I turned my mind to understand. To investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things and to understand the stupidity of wickedness and the madness of folly. Ecclesiastes 7:25. The Consider Podcast examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities at www.consider.info.
Timothy: We’re continuing to talk about “Eau de cult” or the fact that I’ve been slanderously accused of being a cult leader and the churches that I’ve preached that over the years have been accused of being a part of a cult and what nonsense that is. But today we’re going to talk about the last penny. That is let’s do a best-case scenario, and I’m going to kind of choke on the word here Jacob. Because we’re going to talk about, we’re going to assume for just a second that all of these people that persecuted and prosecuted are Christians. And again, like I said I’m choking on the word but let’s just…
Jacob: Sure, like benefit of the doubt.
Timothy: Yeah, that’s right. Well give him benefit of the doubt.
Jacob: Yeah. Well, take him at their word.
Timothy: One prosecutor thinks he’s on a holy calling. Many of the others think they’re Christians. The people that have attacked since I’ve been preaching since the 1970s. And so, there’s this kind of a baseline group of people that led up to the execution and the prosecution by, okay, again I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they’re Christians. So, we’re going to look that, okay, even if they are Christians, even if I just accept that basic logic that they come to me and go, well, we’re Christians too and they’d have some excuses to go down the line. Alright, I’ll give you that let’s begin to look then at what Jesus says will happen to you, because you’re not repenting. And this goes back from all the way the people that have been following since the 70, undermining, destroying, developing bad attitudes, poisoning people’s minds against me.
So, it builds up and it comes to this kind of volcanic moment in which then the governing authorities get involved because they’ve stirred them up and these people know and they’ve honed over the years exactly what to tell the itching years of prosecutors and police what they want to know. So, it isn’t like this just kind of happened out of nowhere or there’s anything credible. They continue to reinforce one lie After another, I encourage people to read the book “Eau de Cult” or better yet how about just read the New Testament. Reminds me of Acts chapter 14 verse 2. Jacob, you want to go over to that Acts chapter 14 verse 2. I’ll let you read that.
Jacob: “But the Jews who refuse to believe start up the Gentiles and poison their minds against the brothers.”
Timothy: That’s essentially what happened. You can’t get any more clear than that. So, we’re going to talk about suppose they can not to repent but claim to be Christians. I know what a lot of people are thinking. Well, the blood of Jesus will cover my mistake or yeah, none of us are perfect. Okay, never mind you destroyed a whole group of people. You cause little ones to stumble and there’s innocent individual in jail and so on. As is become self-evident among the prosecutor class and our judicial system if we can even call that anymore. They’re wanting to please the mob. The mob is wanting to be pleased. They kind of stroke each other’s back. And this is exactly what happened to Jesus Christ. The religious leaders and those that were united with them opposed Jesus. Well, they didn’t quite have the authority to do what they wanted to do to Jesus. So, who did they go to Jacob?
Jacob: They went to the Romans.
Timothy: That’s right. They went to the Romans; the governing authorities and they knew the lie to bring up. They knew the emotions to bring. It’s a cult. There’s a curse upon the whole crowd. The Pharisees will say, they’ll accuse Jesus of being part of bells above and all kind. He’s just this massive evil person, and so together they combine their efforts and crucify Jesus. We’ll see here in a moment that’s the same thing that happened to us and that’s the same thing happening to those good saints that are actually faithful to Jesus Christ. The botPaul line is prosecutors want to please the crowd and the crowd of course wants to be pleased and now we find a total corruption I mean a hundred percent corruption of the legal system in the United States. Let’s look at Mark chapter 15 verse 5 and it explains exactly why Pilate gave in to the crowd. Again, Jacob, I’ll let you read that.
Jacob: Mark chapter 15.
Timothy: Verse 15.
Jacob: Oh 15:15.
Timothy: 15:15 sorry.
Jacob: Mark chapter 15 verse 15. “Wanting to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barnabas to them. He had Jesus flagged, and handed him over to be crucified.”
Timothy: As we look at the prosecutor class that takes place from the justice system. They do not care. People really need to get this to the head. They do not care whether you’re innocent or guilty. It really doesn’t matter to them. They just want to know if they can win the case. That’s why they’re devoid of truth although use the words truth because that’s how you gain convictions among simple minded people or fools, but they’re not interested in anything remotely to do with truth. And if you think I’m exaggerating, give me a buzz and I’ll be more than happy to debate the facts with you. But I’ll warn you I operate on evidence. I don’t know what the prosecutors operated. Well, I do know. They operate on wanting to satisfy the crowd. So, Pilate released Barnabas which was another thief and the mobs and the crowds, they always go for thieves. Jacob, you ever heard of a mob that did a of good deeds?
Timothy: It doesn’t happen. Anytime there’s a mob there, nobody says, oh let’s go feed the poor. Let’s go feed the homeless or let’s go do this or let’s go clean up the city and pick up the trash.
Jacob: Yeah, let’s go pick up the trash and do some landscaping for old grandmas who can’t do it.
Timothy: Yeah, all this protesting going on and all the violence. You never find these groups and there’s no just name them. Getting together and then all of a sudden like spontaneously, oh let’s go do some good deeds and bless a bunch of people. It just never happened.
Timothy: You don’t find any parades going, let’s go help clean up this church over here or let’s go dialogue with these Christians over here and goodness never happens. Prosecutors feed off the crowd and the crowds feed off the prosecutors and this is one reason among many why there’s so much, so much injustice just flooding the land. And this happened to us about 10 years ago roughly. So, things were just beginning to brew up at that point and because prosecutors got by with and police got by with the crowd came to motivate them, it really is part of the explosion. I’m not trying to be narcistic here meaning that just because of us. What I mean is we were just kind of on the forefront of it among some other people also out there, and now you just find explosions become self-evident. If I just said this, well, I did say it 10 years ago. Nobody believed you. Now, it’s at least believable whether or not you want to stand up for the truth. That’s a whole different issue. So let me repeat this. Jacob showed the picture me as a young preacher. Now the first thing what’s the first thing you notice in that picture?
Jacob: Wood paneling.
Timothy: Yeah, I noticed. I have hair.
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: Ever since I’ve been having you cut my hair. I keep losing more and more hair. I’m thinking about finding a good lawyer. I don’t know what’s going on though.
Jacob: What’s going on right now.
Timothy: Alright, so I’ve been preaching early on once Jesus Christ got a hold of me in one form or another. And there literally was like I said there Was I’m very active in preaching the gospel meaning or living the gospel. Most people are going to relate to the terms I’m saying but I started out when there was like DOS 2.01, when it was called Bolton Board Systems. I dialogued. We were did conventions. I don’t know if you remember any of that. Now you were pretty young Jacob.
Jacob: I was pretty young.
Timothy: Pretty busy. So began living the gospel for many, many years. And there were certain that just kept falling around quietly underneath in the darkness which will be revealed later on. Stirring up and honing their arguments, honing their slander. I’m reminded there’s one passage that says the mob came together and the crowd came together, but most people didn’t know why they were there. So, you even had this whole base of people that hated me, hated the church, hated the message, but never researched the message, never talked to me, never even visited the church, even the police that slanderously. I mean way out. You got to understand this policeman is your typical Pharisee or Sadducees Baptist, which I’m not condemning all Baptist but he’s just one of those people that needs to be condemned.
He believes you should only use the King James Bible. He is locked in his own bigotry and his own lies and so he gathered around himself, other people that would reinforce the same lies. This thing kept building on. That took at least ten years but it finally culminated in them being able to manipulate and I won’t go into all the details right now of a false accuser and then everything busted loose. Jacob, at the end of this video put the list down if people want to go and look at some of the facts. I encourage you to do it, but on the other hand it’s like yeah, I encourage you not to do it. It’s very much an onion type event and it just depends what level you’re peeling off to get to the true.
There’s a lot to this and I really stumble over even talking about, because which angle do you want to come out with it? The corruption within the legal system, the religious corruption, the animosity and hatred that was just general. I remember just it’s kind of give people spiritual battle going on I had done a sermon and we had a free section in the bookstore that we had in this town where people come just get, well back then it was tapes, I think we had CDs.
Jacob: CDs, yeah.
Timothy: And in one of those messages or track. I made the point that you can live a long time without food but you can’t live a long time without water. Meaning, you could go about three days I think he mentioned. And then there was a lady in town literally running around in town just mouthing off to everybody, how wrong I was that you really can live longer without water. Well, now the point isn’t whether I’m right or wrong and that the point is what I’m getting there is a spiritual battle for which Satan stirs up people and that created a lot of animosity and then Satan of course has his influence in people that are not disciples of Jesus. So, it’s easy to see how these spreads and I don’t have time to go into other scriptures that would kind of show this, but I’m trying to give you an idea that’s ever since I started preaching as a young pop, all the way up till now the same lie, the same slander. no matter how weak I preached it or how little I lived it.
It was just an underlying theme that continued to be presented until such a time that a certain individual just brought that together and stirred it up and destroyed a lot of people. So, the prosecutors, the police, obviously the police wanted to do a thing but the prosecutors wanted to satisfy the crowd went for it. I mean, they salivate for this stuff. They probably even believe it.
Alright. So, what we’re talking about today is we’re assuming that everybody involved and I’m talking bureaucrats who move paperwork. I’m talking about people in different churches. This applies to any Anybody that either actively supported and I’m going to refer to it as a hate crime because that’s what it was. The hate crime or did whatever they did to inflame the situation needs to repent. I don’t care and we’re assuming they claim to be Christians forgiven by Jesus Christ. We’re going to see what Jesus has to say about this situation and let’s see if the obedience equals and it’s really a warning, it’s an offering, it’s a lot of things mixed together. Jacob, go play the perverts of Jewish prudence file.
Video: There are sexual perverts of all kinds. There are those who kill their father and mothers. There are those who are adulterers, rebels, and downright ungodly. There are liars, perjurers, and false witnesses. Then, there are perverts of jurist prudence. Today’s prosecutors who defile truth, facts, and the law. (First Timothy chapter 1 verses 8-11). The Consider Podcast. Examining today’s wisdom, madness, and folly. www.consider.info.
Timothy: That’s so self-evident today that it’s almost not even worth playing the video. Jacob, let’s go to Matthew chapter 10 verse 25. A lot of people that, well I don’t know the facts. I don’t know the situation. I’d have to study both sides. I’d have to examine everything. No, all you need to do is start living the gospel yourself. Go ahead and read Matthew 10:24 & 25 Jacob.
Jacob: “A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household.” Clearly, I’m not Jesus Christ and clearly, I have not even claimed to be anything significant in Jesus Christ I don’t claim to be a Prophet. I don’t claim to be anything special. I’m just merely a servant that’s in love with Jesus Christ. And because of that I’ve been called a cult leader, demonic.
One of the saddest situations that happened. My wife was dying of a brain tumor. She received a letter written to her and fortunately I intercepted the letter opened it and read it. And in this letter this woman wrote that she was sure I was going to hell, what an evil vile man I was or am. Laying all that out and she went on to say, “And I’m sure you’re going to heaven. I don’t doubt for you but your husband’s doomed.” Now think about the ungodly of that. Somebody dying of a brain tumor and you’re sending that kind of letter. So, this is the atmosphere that’s going on here. The reason I bring that up is Jesus Christ who was holy who is pure who went around doing good deeds, was perfect in every way and I’m not perfect. I don’t even do miracles. I have never raised anybody from the dead. I am way, way, way down on the list but Jesus Christ is perfect. He’s the holy one. And he was called Beelzebub.
Well, how much more the members of his household? I have faults. I was in the process of growing. I’m still growing. You could still point at things and go, well, that’s not exactly Jesus Christ or it’s not that now that’s nothing that’s of the hypocrisy level or way out there. This is not a whitewashed kind of gospel. I’m not offering you a smile on Jack Jesus, what I’m pointing out to you is because I have fault or I don’t know everything a person’s going to say so I can’t anticipate how to respond. I don’t have infinite wisdom. I’m stumbling along like everybody else. I’m reminded the passage in Job where Job says, “Why would you attack this man.” This tottering fence, this tottering wall. At best I’m a tottering wall and offense. So that opens up a lot more accusations you have to deal with because you can’t come back with the power of Jesus Christ in every situation like Jesus Christ. That makes sense Jacob?
Jacob: Yeah, it makes sense.
Timothy: “So how much more the members of his household?” The point being here at this juncture is if you want the truth about this situation. Most people don’t want the truth, they don’t even want to deal with it but they don’t mind believing the lies. If you want to know what truth is, you start falling closer to Jesus Christ and you will be called all these things, you will be driven out of town. And again, this isn’t too hard to believe today because a lot of Christians are being that if you take on that label, you’re being booted out everywhere. We were just a little bit of the curve. Anything you want to add to that, Jacob?
Jacob: No, not really other than what you’re saying is true. I know that.
Timothy: Alright. Well, let’s press on to Matthew 26 verse 3. Pointing out once again the plotting nature what’s been going on. I have well really too much boxes of junk of all that would happen for 30 or 40 years, however long I’ve been preaching of people plotting behind the scenes or making derogatory things over here or putting pressure on people or really twisting a whole lot of things. I mean I would receive emails that would go, yeah, so and so would never do such a thing. Of course, they never tell me what it is that I did that was wrong. They just assume I know what they’re saying or they don’t want to get into it because again it might expose the falses they believe.
So, we read in Matthew 26 verse 3. “Then the chief priest and the elders of the people assembled in the place of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas.” What do we see here? Everybody’s coming together and this is what happened over a period of time. All these different groups begin to assemble together under one banner and come together. It’s a Psalms says, they hardened lie and they hardened a lie against me. So, in verse 4 goes on to say, “And they plotted.” Oh, they’ve been plotting and plotting and plotting. The big crime against the governing authorities no matter what level. Whether it’s bureaucrat up or prosecutor down or however you want to look at that is that they refuse to look at the evidence. They refuse to consider anything that didn’t confirm the plot that was being put before them.
So, the crime real sin that the deepest part of the sin on a fundamental starting level is they just wouldn’t even examine anything. It was just this was accepted. This is truth. We’re just going to mow over. We see that happening almost to everybody today. It’s called prosecution by extortion. And I want to get too sidetracked because we’ll get, hopefully the Lord let me get into this or better yet hopefully somebody might repent and then I can bypass it till the judgement day for the rest of the folks. We’ll see. Matthew chapter 26 verse 4. Read it Jacob.
Jacob: “And they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him.”
Timothy: All this was about being sly about everything. Jacob you were there. You went through like the end part of all this thing till we were scattered out of the town and innocent people accused of all kinds of things and people set out to destroy other people. It was, was it not sly?
Jacob: Oh, very sly.
Timothy: Sly and sly me. Too many s’s. You have to understand the zeal too of these people. This isn’t just some minor thing and some people don’t really understand just how full of venom, hatred, self-righteousness, the policeman. Let me say right in front nobody actually did their job, no matter what level is that. To do your job means you investigate and you don’t move forward unless you actually have evidence. Nobody actually did their job, the fundamental job of the law on every level. The first thing is a prosecutor police, is the person guilty. And when they don’t concern themselves with that truth, because really what people need to understand. If you serve on a jury whatever, they’re not concerned with truth, they’re not concerned with whether you are honestly guilty or not. They’re only concerned with can we present this to you and fool you to believe they’re guilty. Right Jacob?
Jacob: Correct. They want to present the case in such a way as to win. You said it earlier. But that’s what prosecutors do all across the board. They’re only showing the evidence and their side of the story in order to manipulate the jury to believe them. That’s what they all do.
Timothy: The reason I’m repeating that it’s really hard. I think it’s taken me a while to believe that people are so zealous like that, they tune out facts, truth, evidence, and effort. Really isn’t that kind of, because if you were like arrested or brought in you think rationally about the situation, right Jacob?
Timothy: You think, okay, this is what I’m being accused of. This is my defense and you go through all the reasonable things you could present to show that you’re not guilty, right?
Timothy: It’s hard to believe that when you go to talk to prosecutors or police, there’s snakes that can’t be charmed. No matter what you say, they’re not interested in any of those things and there’s a real disconnect between people’s minds, what they think the justice system’s up to, and what it’s really up to.
Jacob: Correct. I think of it used to be when you work for the government whether you’re a police officer, prosecutor, judge, whatever. No, no, no. You were used to be referred as a public servant. Right? You’re paid by taxpayer dollars. You are a public servant, but now they beat down everybody so that we are like the servants to them. Even when you talk about like juries and jury selection, all they’re doing is looking for people to manipulate to get their agenda. There is no, not only is there not any justice, truth, evidence, facts, you know what I mean? There’s no service.
Jacob: There’s no service to the people. There’s only their agenda.
Timothy: Now, I want to add and this is the point I’m trying to get to is the detective that believed in the King James Bible only. Most people can’t relate to that doctrine, right Jacob? I mean, it’s an antiquated doctrine and there aren’t enough congregations I think that run around going the King James Bible is the only Bible
Jacob: Correct. I was stopping only because a lot of people, it’s like one extreme or the other. Either you have, I don’t even know what it’s called, right? The Bible where everything’s so watered down to nothing and like that’s easy accepted. And then there’s the acceptance that we have to yeah read the super old version that totally doesn’t actually speak in our words today. There’s like both, there’s like two extremes.
Timothy: Correct. So, the detective and I keep saying so a lot. But the detective is so full of zeal to prosecute most people can’t relate to that. You have to really think back to the 1600s or when England was going through the reformation.
Jacob: And there’s like a holy zealot.
Timothy: When they’re burning people at the state.
Jacob: No matter what. I am going to do this, no matter what.
Timothy: I’ve been watching several history type things listening to the books. They would torture people and the logic behind the torture was, well, if I can get them to recant their protestant beliefs, I’ll save their soul. But they’re doing it under torture these people didn’t go away they’ve just changed uniforms. So, the policeman abused his power. The prosecutors support the police no matter what unless of course prosecute them promotes themselves and so on. Matthew chapter 27 verse 25. Jacob, read it before I get too long winded on this.
Timothy: Matthew 27:25.
Jacob: “All the people answered, “Let his blood be on us and our children!””
Timothy: Let me read that again. “All the people answered.” And the situation is this Jesus is for trial before Pilate and they’re just going crucify him, crucify him, crucify him, right? That attitude. They are so sure of their position or so full of emotion with what they’re doing. Look at what they say to the governing authorities and before God. These are religious people, right? “Let his blood be on us and on our children!” This is the kind of zeal unholy zeal that we bumped into. This is what came materializing and came up. They may believe we’re occult. They may believe all those lies. It doesn’t make them true. They believe Jesus need to be crucified, but were they completely wrong?
Timothy: Completely wrong. And then of course, as the trial went on and things went on nobody want to listen to anything we have to say. You’re not allowed to present anything relevant that actually has to do with truth and the prosecutors and the judges own the courtroom, and they’re not going to let anything in there that interferes with their agenda. You can be assure of that. Alright, now let’s move a little bit forward to the “last penny”, because that’s the point of what we’re looking at today. Let’s assume that the judges involved really are. Let’s assume that the prosecutors are really good. Let’s assume that the King James version only a police detective or non-detective really is a Christian and somehow, they’re in that realm, alright? In their minds because of the smiling jack Jesus out there, the white horse, the televangelist, all the other mechanisms by which these empty gospels put out. They no doubt believe they’re going to heaven, correct Jacob?
Timothy: And that somehow Jesus is going to wipe through that, oh they just made a mistake, or they got this point wrong over here, or they didn’t mean for it to go this far. I don’t know what goes through people’s head. It would change with agents.
Jacob: Well and like you said that’s best-case scenario, because I’m pretty sure most people involved in the situation are still at the stage where they say, they’re so sure of their actions, right? That they said, let this man’s blood be on ours and our children. So anyway, now we’re only pivoting because in our situation the people that were bringing such accusations are in that boat so even to this day they probably, unless they’re conscious is being pricked by something.
Timothy: Well, we can say for sure none of them are repenting.
Jacob: So, this is like a best-case scenario, maybe there is one prosecutor on the prosecutor team, maybe there is again because there’s a lot of people involved. There’s a lot of people that threw on hate and persecution and lies. So yeah, now we’re sort of pivoting. We’re pivoting away from the police officer because we kind of know what boat he’s in.
Jacob: If we’re seeing, I’m just so we’re kind of moving because there’s that group and then now maybe somebody who is slightly bothered by what they did.
Timothy: Well, you bring up a good point. I’m trying to pivot and I can’t. Because I’m trying to call them Christians which they aren’t Christians.
Jacob: Yeah, you can’t.
Timothy: The Christian redeemer, but okay. So, I’m trying to get the benefit of doubt but everything within that is truth is like, no, you can’t pivot there but okay, I’m going to pivot there.
Jacob: We’re going to pivot. Yeah. Well, so like you said because we know what the truth is but then we’re going to pivot to their own words which they say they’re a Christian. And then you would say, okay, fine. If you say you’re a Christian, then, we’re moving on.
Timothy: And as a side note, I’d be willing to go there if I saw even a glimmer of repentance.
Timothy: God’s not going to pull out a smoldering wick. I’m not going to put out a smoldering wick. They may have to go deeper with their repentance and brokenness. But I’m thinking of the Psalm that says, “I’m for peace but they’re for war.” No matter how long God says I hold out my hand to you all day long. I mean this has been years. Almost I think we’re coming up on a decade now. And people have not repented and come forward to repent. Alright let’s pivot. Let’s pivot. Let’s go to Colossians chapter 3 verse 23. Let me know when you get there Jacob.
Jacob: Okay. Colossians chapter 3 verses 23. I’m there.
Timothy: Alright. “Whatever you do,” scripture says. “Work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord not for men.” Did you say amen to that?
Timothy: Everybody would say amen. Who’s he talking to? Who’s the audience that he’s dialoguing with? Is this I assume he’s not talking to pagans, unbelievers.
Jacob: No, he’s talking to the church, Christians.
Timothy: Right. So, the church they would probably all agree. “Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord.” Not from an amens would go up. Yeah, I’m serving God. God knows my hard all of that. Verse 24, “Since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward.” Everybody wants reward?
Timothy: And would they not be cheering on? Yes, I’ve got a reward. I’ve been working for God. God knows I’m on a holy calling and I’ve been prosecuting criminals for decades. I have a reward because I did it with all my heart. I did all these things, right? Let’s just give them the benefit of the doubt that they really are in a holy calling. They really are Christians and they just made a big boo-boo and it’s just a big mistake, alright? “So, work with it all your heart. Since you know that you receive an inheritance from the Lord.” I butchered it. “Since you know that you receive an inheritance from the Lord as reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.” A lot of these people would say that’s what they’re doing. Some of the judges claim to be Christians. They claim they’re serving Jesus Christ. Alright, let’s look at verse 25. And let’s consider who he’s talking to and let’s listen carefully to the warning. Jacob, go ahead.
Jacob: “Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.”
Timothy: Let’s pause and let that kind of sink in a little bit. Is he not talking to Christians? I’m repeating myself. Obvious, right?
Timothy: He says, anyone. Anyone. That mean a pagan, an unbeliever?
Timothy: Baptist, Methodist?
Timothy: UPC, NDC, whatever initials are? Anyone, anyone who claims, me? Anyone who claims to be a Christian? You, are we not part of anyone?
Timothy: Anyone who does wrong, anyone. You cannot claim in this situation especially that somehow all of the evil things that were done and all the slander that was done and the harm that was done and in the way it was done that you won’t be repaid for that because you’re a Christian. Paul is clear. God is clear. You’re serving Jesus Christ. If you do wrong as you’re serving Jesus Christ, what does God say? What does Paul say? What does ink on paper say? What is it we’re reading? Read it verse 25, Jacob.
Jacob: “Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.”
Timothy: Everyone down through the decades that did not stand up and refute the lies that I’m a cult leader or this is a cult or any other lies. Moving all the way forward to those who actively pursued false accusations that they could present and move forward. They searched in a lot of ways. I have not even began to reveal all the different angles people came in, And claim to be Christians will be repaid for that wrong. Let’s play, “the last penny”.
Video Let us consider, “The Last Penny”. You have heard that it was said to the people long ago. “Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother, will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, “Raca”, is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, “you fool!” will be in danger of the fire of hell. “Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you. Leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift. “Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. I tell you the truth You will not get out until you have paid the last penny. (Matthew 5:21-26). The Consider Podcast, examining today’s wisdom, folly and madness. www.consider.info.
Timothy: Let’s look at Matthew 5:26 there says, “I tell you the truth.” How often did Jesus say that to give us a heads up, like what I’m telling you here I’m serious about. “I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” He’s talking to anyone. Remember there will be as Colossians 3:25 said, “Anyone who does wrong, will be repaid for his wrong and there is no favoritism.” This isn’t applying to your neighbor; this is applying to all of us. We all have to give an account before God. And you might still believe that I’m doctrinally in error. But the mechanisms in the way that you went about this are as ungodly as they get. And this doesn’t say, you go and repent and be at peace with this brother. If you agree with everything he says. It’s if you did wrong.
This is one time when it’s okay to be narcissistic. It’s all about you. Did you do wrong? Did you do right. Let’s read what Jesus says in verse 21. Jacob why don’t you read? Let’s go to 21 & 22.
Jacob: “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgement.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger the fire of hell.”
Timothy: Been angry at me? Then you need to repent. “But I tell you that anyone who’s angry with his brother, will be subject to judgement.” You might believe all or half or one third or one quarter or have a few questions left over. It’s not going to get you by. You’re not going to stand before God and go, well Lord yeah, I know I did a bunch of these things wrong and I wasn’t quite perfect in all these things and yeah, I know all these bad things happened to a lot of people. And there was a lot of destruction, but Lord I just didn’t quite know for sure and yeah, if I offended in any way or if I messed up, yeah just forgive me. That’s what this is saying.
“But I tell you that anyone who’s angry with his brother will be subject to judgement.” This is one reason why the last church I had at least had a small taste of the love of Jesus Christ. We took this serious. This was like serious from the Holy Spirit. So, the anger, the frustration against one another. That was a repentable sin and never got up to all the way of full anger of saying, ‘you fool’, or ‘you idiot’, or ‘Raca’ or whatever. “But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell,” Jesus said. Well, if you claim to be a Christian then you’re exempt from this particular passage. Anyone who says ‘you fool!’ looking down on us just coming in with contempt not treating us as fellow human beings, treating us as little lower on that rung and coming in with an attitude of, wow, we’re prosecutors, we’re polices, we have judge, we got people behind us, we’re roosters in front of our army, we can go marching up and down and we’ve got this mob over here, we’ve collected this over here. If you’re running around saying, oh they’re fools, they’re idiots are down there. Guess what? You are in danger. What does it say, Jacob? What does it say?
Jacob: “You will be in danger of the fire of hell.”
Timothy: Again, I’m joking because where is the conviction of this. If these people claim to be Christians, you’re trying to tell me the Holy Spirit hasn’t whispered in their ears, you’re in danger the fire, are their consciences that far gone? Are those that betrayed the truth and deserted in the time when they should have risen up and suffered for Jesus Christ? Do they really think they’re going to escape the fire of hell without repentance? You tell me Jacob; do they really believe that?
Jacob: Yeah, they must because otherwise you would’ve, at the very least gotten a letter or a phone call or a message left, or you know what I mean? If these people say they’re Christians, then at the very very very very least you would having a postcard. I’m sorry.
Timothy: Yeah, I went too far on this, yeah.
Jacob: Even to continue to justify your actions moving forward, according scripture, first you have to go, actually “reconciled” is a very strong word. So, even what I’m saying doesn’t really count, but again there would be some sort of communication to say, I’m sorry about what I did, I’m sorry I said you’re a fool, I’m sorry that I got angry, I’m sorry that. But no.
Timothy: And the truth is they’re putting me below a fool, you go fool cult leader, you go down. So, you’re putting me at the botPaul of and really us anyone who follows Jesus Christ with all their heart, mind, soul, and strength. You’re putting him all the way at the botPaul. And Jesus saying to anyone, but I tell you that anyone who is angry. Anyone who says you fool will be in the danger of the fires of hell. You have to repent. There was somebody I forget who it was. Wow. I don’t forget. Let me rephrase that now. Remember wrote a letter, post, blog. Whatever you want to call it these days that I owned every Body’s property and that I had this checking account and everybody would give me their money and I would I guess return them the money. I don’t know what the mechanism was and put it out as fact.
I rebuked him publicly. I’ve called for repentance for years. He refuses to repent. And he definitely claims to be a Christian. I think he claims to be an elder, all kinds of stuff that are going on. He I what do they do when you’re reading these scriptures when you’re praying before God and you what do you, but anyone who says ‘you fool!’ what do you do with that?
Jacob: I mean If you’re actually asking the question, I think that you’re back to, well, they’re not really Christians. They’re like the Jewish people. They’re like Pharisees who say that you should die and your blood can be on their heads. I mean, that’s how confident they are. So, if they read that.
Timothy: That’s true. If you’re going to curse your children.
Jacob: Yeah, I mean but really, I mean, they read this and they say, well, you’re not a brother. You’re evil and you’re wicked. You’re a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Therefore, this doesn’t apply to you. Therefore, I’m not going to do it.
Jacob: Which actually we circle back around and say that they’re not really a Christian. They’re the ones who are not a Christian at all.
Timothy: Well, we get that. You’re trying to point out.
Jacob: I’m just saying.
Timothy: No, I know. I hear. I I’m thinking of the curse on the children of the party. There was a flashback that that just came to mind. I was with my wife who at that time, she was in the process of the brain tumor being removed so she was weak and we’re sitting at Panda Express and straight across from us is a mother with her young daughter. I’m bad with age so I’m going to go 6 or 7, right?
Well, clearly, she knew me as the cult leader and giving me the nastiest, dirtiest look and her daughter’s watching this and she’s doing the same thing. You said into motion that daughter will grow up to look down on anybody with contempt, and never asked, well, what’s the truth here? Mommy said, it was true or conveyed it. That child would not even at this point be able to reason or remember probably that event. But sitting down and looking the way they did and going through all of that. No telling what was set behind the scenes or talking with other people. This is not some abstract concept. Children listen to what you say. And so, when they without even saying, well, curse me and our children, you are cursing your children by the underhandedness of the sin that went on here.
Timothy: And not repenting of it and Alright, verse 23. So, what do we do with this? And I I’m not going to do the usual sermon that dialogues about the fact that you got to go through this whole process to get into the inner temple and there you’re offering your gift. So, it would be a lot of work and a lot of effort to stop what you’re doing at that point and go back out. We all know that, okay? You’re in the middle of church. This is what this is saying. “Therefore, if you’re offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you.” And let me be clear here, I have a lot against other people. So, this is not some abstract. This is real. This is real.
Verse 24, “Leave your gift there in front of the altar.” So, you’re all the way there. I don’t know. You’re bending down. You’re laying your gift before the living God. You’re doing the Christian thing. So, let’s again give them the benefit of the doubt that they really are Christians. They’re in there praying for God. They’re bringing their gift to God. They’re laying it down. And there remember that your brother has something against you. And if you don’t think I don’t have some justification for everything he’s against you then give me a buzz and we’ll just start reading through scripture. It’s kind of self-evident at this point. Jesus says, “Leave your gift there in front of the altar.” Just leave it. Don’t even grab up the gift. Oh, I don’t want to lose my gift. I don’t want to lose the moment. That’s how little effort he wants you to make it convenient. Is that making sense, Jacob?
Timothy: Could you there in front of the altar? There’s your gift. Logic would kick in and go, oh man, I need to go repent. I can’t continue on. Well, let’s see. I need to tell the wife I’m going to do this and I need to tell my sons and daughters I’m going over here and I better tell the pastor I’m going to do this over here and here’s this gift. Let me finish giving this gift, because that bless God and he’ll bless his work and this will be a good thing to do for God. I’ll pray a little bit more before I get myself all put together. Would that not be what people would do?
Jacob: That’s the logic.
Timothy: That’s the logic. “Leave your gift there in front of the altar.” You mean there should have been no hesitation. No delay, nothing. The minute the conviction comes, I’ve watched from afar, people get convicted, I see what they’re doing, and they just delay, they delay, they delay, and guess what? The conviction will disappear.
Timothy: Your conscience will become seared as with a hot iron, scripture says. And you will not be able to repent when it really does come down to the wire. “Leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.” This is all about fellowship. Think about the logic of the situation. I clearly claim to be a Christian. Correct Jacob?
Timothy: A lot of these people involved claim to be a Christian, right?
Timothy: Well, come show me my error. And there was no attempt to do such a thing.
Timothy: There was no like well here’s how you live this scripture or I think you’re being wrong over here. There wasn’t even the normal, churches today I doubt they even go to each other. Alright, “First go and be reconciled with your brother; then come off of your gift.” Verse 26, “Settle matters quickly.” I think we’re kind of getting that point. “With your adversary who’s taking you to court.” Oh, I’m headed to court. Believe me I’m headed court. I got the evidence. I keep going at it. God may start it in this world. I don’t know. He may have me delayed but that court date is coming. “Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.” There’s actually, I believe this is in Luke. It says, “Thrown into prison to be tortured.” But I’d have to go look it up to verify that. Verse26, “I tell you the truth, You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”
Outro: This has been the Consider Podcast at www.consider.info where yesterday’s folly is today’s madness. In the beginning, the unrepentant sinners words are folly. At the end, they are wicked madness. Ecclesiastes 10:13. Judgement begins with the house of God. Therefore, let everyone who loves the Lord with an undying love pick up their cross and walk the talk. As Peter the wrote. “Therefore, prepare your minds for action. Be self-controlled”. First Peter 1:13-14. The Considered Podcast, examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities. www.consider.info.
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