#40 Did Satan Legally Catch God pt 2

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Timothy:  Well, hopefully we’ll get to it to discuss how Satan thought he had God legally trapped.

The justice alone segment on The Consider Podcast hones in on the ever-increasing injustice in the land. The land is vomiting in revulsion to the injustices instituted by unrepentant judges, prosecutors, and police. Follow justice and justice alone, so that you may live and possess the land the Lord your God is giving you. Deuteronomy 16 verse 20. Urgent is the need for perverts of jurisprudence to repent. With many other words, he warned them and he pleaded with them. Save yourselves from this corrupt generation. Acts 2 verse 40

Timothy: We’re talking about, or hopefully we’re gonna get to how Satan thought he had God legally trapped. No, I approach this with a disclaimer. I don’t pretend to really understand what Satan thinks. I don’t want to understand what he thinks, but for the sake of discussion, I’m going to assume that I’m correct, and I’m willing to be very wrong at any point in time. Jacob, you’ll see there in the notes, let’s go down to page 6 there at the botPaul, Ezekiel 28:11. And go ahead and read, let’s first establish who Satan was. And why he probably thought a lie that he had God trapped legally. Let’s read Ezekiel 28:11 through 17. And I’ll probably interrupt you, but go for it.

Jacob: Ezekiel 28:11. The word of the Lord came to me; "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him, ‘This is what the sovereign Lord says, You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God, every precious stone adored you, ruby, topaz, emerald, crystallite, onyx, jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold. On the day you were created, they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence and you sinned. So, I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty. And you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor, so I threw you to the earth, I made a spectacle of you before kings.

Timothy: Looking at this scripture, I wanted us to refresh ourselves as to what position Satan had. He was the guardian of God’s throne. So, he knew God, I want to say on an intimate level, he certainly knew all the things about God. I’m hesitating here because how would I possibly describe what it would be like to be a cherub and guarding God’s throne and adorned with all the gold and all the beautiful things God creates. How could I possibly describe, well, what do I understand about God? Communicating such a thing is beyond me. I’m not trying to put you on the spot, Jacob. Any words you can add to that privileged position that Satan had?

Jacob: Well, he uses you are the model of perfection. So, whatever, just for the sake of discussion, whatever somebody thinks is the model of perfection, he was it.

Timothy: He was. And what I want us to see here is the arrogance. We see that within the prosecutor class. And we certainly have established that Satan controls the courtroom. Does he not?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: And it’s only going to be God, you know, slap dogging justice in the justice system that it’s going to happen. And bet it happens mostly by mistake and the prosecutors and judges and the jury don’t even know quite how it happened because God just has to interject. We’re talking about a bunch of fallen people sitting in a jury box and we’re talking about arrogant fallen prosecutors and police all who have need to repent not just one time but throughout their whole life like all the rest of us. And since they’re not doing that, that’s why you find this concentration of corruption and pride and arrogance, especially the arrogance and the pride. They behave, prosecutors do and believe they are like just set up as the supreme beings within the legal system, correct?

Jacob: Mm hmm.

Timothy: I know we’ve talked to people that have been in Law school, and they’ve stated, yeah, the people in law school don’t even like prosecutors and know that they have too much power. Correct? And everybody, the only people that don’t look down on prosecutors are prosecutors. They just pat each other on the back and they huddle in their light little corners. I know Prosecutor Mark Larson has started an organization called Excellence in Prosecution or something like that. I went by there, obviously, I can’t join, it’s only made for other prosecutors. And I know what they’re doing, they’re patting each other on the back, they’re talking about some legal things. But at the end of the day, it’s like, oh, how great I am, and how much flattery, it rings of a satanic heart. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, your position, you were next to God, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. These prosecutors, by the just nature of the laws that are set up for prosecutors, it’s going to corrupt you, period. You might start out in law school with some noble intentions, and you might decide you want to do some good to society. All those lies are easily worked in there. And okay. So, let me give you kind of a benefit of the doubt that maybe you had some good intentions, but the nature of the law within the United States is full of corruption. The nature of the law is overweening power by the state to crush anybody they so decide, and it’s getting worse, right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: And so, you’ve got these arrogant prosecutors, by the time they’re bad company corrupts good character. So, let’s just say you got one prosecutor. All right, let’s go way out there. Let’s say there’s five in law school, have prayer meetings, seeking the humility and the brokenness of God. They’re hanging around people and bad company corrupts good character. So, you’re hanging about other criminals who don’t have those goals. They are going to corrupt you unless you stand firm. And that’s going to require not associating with some of your fellow prosecutors, you’d have to find and let God arrange it to bring other people that are not within the prosecution field that are not prosecutors or law enforcement to fellowship. Because it’s within the body that all of this gets cleaned and purified. Again, that’s why it’s so much of a joke that I ran a cult because what I taught was that we should go and are able to rebuke our brother and see their sins and help them. That applied to me. And certainly, I’d have to say in the churches and people outside, they took that one seriously. Didn’t they, Jacob?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: People came to me with everything. It just never stopped. And I’ve talked about this before, so I won’t. Prosecutors don’t go back and go, man, did I do something wrong? They don’t go back before God and go like, well, am I guilty here? Or am I really have a pure heart in this prosecution? Am I seeking to be a peacemaker? Is God actually working through his Holy spirit to work justice in the justice system? It’s not there. Now, how do I know? Somebody might be going, no, that’s not true. Baloney. They would have been either fired by now or came under persecution. You’re not going to be able, like any occupation, you’re not going to be able to be in a legal profession, whether it’s police or prosecutor. And really, truly be a strong, powerful disciple of Jesus without facing possible persecution, being fired, being kicked out, because the least little bit of like independent thinking within the legal profession, whether police or prosecutor, you’re honed in, they will make sure you conform. They are bad company. Well back again to Satan here, he is the guardian. He understands or thinks he understands a lot of things of God. Does he not?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Alright, so let’s back up and let’s go to Luke 16:17. That would be on page 5 there, of the notes, Jacob. And this is one reason that Satan thought he had God trapped legally. Because God, we’ve already established, is a God of justice, right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Which means there are the laws of God, the precepts of God, the commands of God, the voice of God. There are all these things that God has set down. And Satan understands in his mind, his wicked mind that, okay, God will not break his law. Because if you can get God to break a law or a commandment or the way of God, then what happens? God becomes sinful. Correct?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: So, being like any criminal, any criminal or, and I’m using the prosecutor class put in there, they look at the law from a position of, well, how can I break the law? How can I use the law against the law to get what I want? Right?

Jacob: Yeah. That’s all, you know, the entire legal system is nothing but how to get your way, somebody’s way, whether you’re… You know what I mean? Like whether it’s the prosecutors or the defense or everybody’s just trying to get their way, their agenda pushed forward. So, you’re using the law and manipulating it every opportunity you can to win.

Timothy: Correct. And it just depends on what position you have, what power you have. The prosecutors are untouchable in terms of any. I remember King County prosecutors, they have a bad police list that if you don’t conform to what they want, you’re put on this list. I don’t know what that means they do with it, but they have a list, right?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: So, I asked them, well, give me the bad prosecutor list. Oh, we don’t have a bad prosecutor list. So, there’s no list that goes, well, there’s a bad prosecutor because they don’t care. They only invite people that are overweening and arrogant and can just do whatever you want. There’s no thought of cleaning up the prosecutor because there is a total thought of, well, let’s let not things get public so we’re put to shame. But that has nothing to do with, that has to do with PR, that has to do with evil presentations of trying to whitewash deeds. Alright, so Satan understands fully that God is a God of justice and laws and principles and things that he cannot break without being a criminal himself. So, he thinks when he comes down to Eve and he does all of this and he causes her to sin, there’s no way out. She’s broken the law. Has she not? God clearly said, don’t eat of it, don’t look at it, don’t touch it. Right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: So, Satan is thinking and his wisdom is corrupted by now, but he’s thinking, okay, I’m going to get the human race. That’s all I can do. I’ve been cast down to this world. I’m going to get Eve and Adam to break God’s law. And in his mind, he’s going, aha, I got God because there’s no way, there’s no way he can come along and redeem them from this position because they broke the law is the law is the law, right?

Jacob: They’ll forever be doomed.

Timothy: Correct. Forever be doomed and that kind of thing. So, in his darkened wisdom, that’s what he believes. And in fact, he knows scripture Luke 7:16-17 says, Jesus says, it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the law. So, is that not the character of God? Here is the law.

Jacob: Yes. Every single word. Every single letter. All of it.

Timothy: I believe the King James says, every dot of the eye, it’s like there isn’t any aspect for which the law is going to go away. It’s there. God has established it. It’s solid. It’s not going to be changed. Sounds like the federal government, doesn’t it?

Jacob: Yeah. Well, yeah.

Timothy: All right. So, let’s go to John chapter 10 verse 34. And go ahead and read that Jacob. 34 and 35.

Jacob: Jesus answered them. Is it not written in your laws; I have said you are gods? If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

Timothy: All right, I’m not going to try and explain the scripture just today, but the point I want to say, at the end of verse 35, it says, and the scripture cannot be broken. So, God was very clear to Adam and Eve, this can’t be broken. You touch it, you get close to it. I don’t want to beat up on the point. It can’t be broken. If you break this law, you will die. That was. And she even knew the law so that she can, you know, in that case, there’s no pleading that I just didn’t know. Jesus answered them, is it not written. And it’s interesting here in your law. Here’s a key that I want us to hold on to for just a second. Jesus said to him, is it not written in your law, I have said you are gods. Now, Jacob, what’s your impression here? What are you making of this? Because obviously he’s saying it’s your law and these are scriptures that can’t be broken. Can you kind of, maybe you’ve got the real clear answer. I’m kind of putting you on the spot. Just kind of stumble through that a little bit.

Jacob: Well, I think that your law, well, if somebody makes a law, you can almost like break your own law. I don’t like the creator of all things. So, I think even, wasn’t it like the law was given to man because of his rebellion? Now that’s a total, you know, botched way to say it. But like the God gave all these laws, but he is above the law. He’s above the law. So, he can still, and I’m just, he can do whatever he wants. And so how that all works, I can’t tell you, but, or I couldn’t necessarily explain. But if someone’s above the law, they can do what they want.

Timothy: You know, that was a good sermon, but I don’t think it applies to here. And let me let me explain to you why. We’ll look at here in a moment, but God is unfathomable in wisdom, right? So, the rules that he makes for the human race are not a reflection of the totality of his laws and ways. The best way I know to explain this is, as someone who is raising children and you say, somebody who’s got a young daughter or whatever, and she’s five years old and you lay down a law for her. Could that law change when she’s six?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Seven?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Ten?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: And when they get 13 and go, well, you said this when I was six, you know, when those attitudes kick in, what you’re explaining is, this law was written for you, but it’s not the totality of understanding of what justice is and what the law is. So, Satan’s coming along into the world. And since he’s a finite being and he’s only so close to God in order to understand God, you’d have to be larger than God. To understand the justice of God, you’d have to be larger than the justice of God. Satan wasn’t that. He was a finite being. So, his understanding of who God is, though it was close and it was magnificent and there was a lot of beauty and there was wisdom there. What was missing, of course, was the humility of saying, well, you know, I still don’t got the whole picture. So, when he’s delusional and he comes down, he thinks, okay, I’m going to trap Adam and Eve by the law. Well, it’s our law that’s written for us. There in other words, there are deeper laws, deeper ways of God that says, I can redeem them and I’m not breaking any law. In fact, it’s all in line with love. Think of your child again, five years old, you set a law down, right?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Well, what’s overriding that whole law is love, right?

Jacob: Correct.

Mid point

Timothy: So, the law that you’re setting down for your child is based on the benefits for that child. And that could change within an hour. Like you could go, no, you’re going to take a nap at three o’clock and then seven comes up at three o’clock or the child’s not really ready for a nap. So, you change it to 3:30, unless you’ve got a really rebellious child, they’re not going to turn and go, well, you said I had to go to bed at 3 o’clock. That usually comes later or with the current parenting skills, quote unquote, put out there by the state, they do can slap dog the parents around. Does that kind of make sense?

Jacob: Yeah, well, you know, I think, you know, we’ve talked about, like, for instance, people even going to, like, heaven or hell, that there’s this sort of line. And, like, where that line is could be different for different people, because Satan crossed the line, the line for Satan, and then was cast out of heaven. So, he’s almost, it’s almost like you’re again, back to Jesus’s words, like judging by a mere appearance, you’re judging based on like Satan was cast out of hell because he crossed the line. So, he’s thinking, okay, I’m going to make these humans, these earthly people stumble, and then they’re going to cross the line. And then, ha, they’re going to be out as well.

Timothy: Right. And I don’t mean this as a pun, they’re going to be toast.

Jacob: Yeah. They’re going to be toast. They’re gone.

Timothy: They’re gone. But it’s our laws for our benefit. It is not the totalitary, if that’s even a word, it’s not the totalitary of all the law of who God is. We’ll see that here in a moment. In fact, my notes are kind… Let’s go to Romans 11:33, which is on page six there, Jacob. And then we’ll back up to page five. Romans 11:33, where it flat out tells us this. And I don’t know if Satan forgot it, or I have a point that’s true, but I’m kind of shallow on my understanding, which that’s what I’m going to plead. But Romans 11:33. Listen to what he says about God. He begins with, Oh. He begins with this emotion. And that’s kind of what I’m trying to express here. It’s like, yeah, we’re talking about God’s laws and we’re talking about judgment. And we’re talking about human laws and all of these things going on. But then when I turn my eyesight to God, you start with, Oh. You know, this is awe inspiring. I don’t even, to say it’s over my head is a complete understatement. Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and the knowledge of God. You can see he’s just exploding with, this is beyond mere legalities, or the laws of God and the ways of God and his commandments, and all things reach way beyond what the world presents to us or what the prosecutors do. There’s no comparison. This is a little bit of a sidetrack, but at least when Satan came to Eve, the law was clear. Do not eat, do not touch, right? Things have progressed so far because Satan controls the world and he controls the prosecutor class. The laws are so vague now that the prosecutors don’t have to go, well, here’s the law. Here’s what it said. It’s clear. You broke it. Boom. You’re in jail. That’s not what. The laws are so gray and broad, it’s just oppression by nature. And that’s all that it is, is oppression. Back to the good news of Romans 11:33. Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God, how unsearchable his judgments.

So, he can bring in a judgment on an eve and it’d be totally within the law of God. He set it down. But then there’s also other Judgments on top of that law. We do that with our children if we’re good parents. You lay down a law, right? And you realize well, you know this isn’t quite working or it’s not the best for the child, or maybe they’re in trouble and then you go, yeah, I’m really sorry, and they’re really repenting, they’re not playing any type of game. What are you going to do? You’re going to back up. So, mercy triumphs judgment. We get hints of this in scripture all over the place. But these things are unsearchable. You and I will talk about a lot of topics that we go, yeah. And we start off going, well, it could be wrong, but we’re going to search it out. But we know we’re searching out that which is unsearchable. The joy of looking at what is God’s justice and what does justice mean in this world. That’s an unsearchable topic. If you’re worshiping the living God, if you’re seeking his face. And that’s, what’s missing in the church. And okay, I’ll repeat it again. And that’s certainly void. Not only is that void within the justicism, they’re hostile to it. They are literally hostile. You have to give your pound of flesh and if you fail within one tenth of an ounce, they’re going to demand all kinds of other retribution and repayment, but not with God. How unsearchable is his judgments and his paths beyond tracing out. So, I can examine all these things and I enjoy looking at all these things. But I know that it’s an impossible task and I love the impossible task of God. It’s just a glory because you do discover a whole lot. It’s just not, I can’t come to an end and say okay that’s it. I know a lot of times something will come up in the news or I’ll read something in history and I’m going man, Lord, they did this, and how would this be judged? And I’ve prayed about it, and essentially God just says, none of your business, or you’re going to have to let it go, or that’s for later on, and that’s fine, I just move on to the next thing. But there’s a lot of things I get some insight, some teaching, and then just move forward. The reason for this is Romans 11:34. It’s what we’ve talked about, Who has known the mind of the Lord or who has been his counselor. There’s no legal counsel that goes to God and go, you know, you really ought to say this, or you need a disclaimer over here, or you ought to do an environmental protection agency study before you send that rainfall. Right?

Jacob: Mm mm hmmm

Timothy: Who has been his legal counselor? Who’s come before him and said, okay, God, this is what you need to do? Or Romans 1135. Who has ever given to God that God should repay him? None of our laws compare to his. The problem I have is nobody tries. Nobody within the prosecutor class or the police or anyone. They don’t even try to bring in justice. They are hostile to justice. They are, and I’m repeating it over and over again, like Satan. Go ahead and read verse 36 there, Jacob.

Jacob: For from him and through him and to him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

Timothy: What a glorious calling. If there were any prosecutor prayer groups doing this, what an upset within the system that would be? What a glory that would be. But it’s not there. It’s not there. There’s no real talk of reform. Or anytime a prosecutor or the legislatures talk about reform, watch out. Because that means they’re just grabbing for more power. They are a sly group of people.

Jacob: Yeah. Reform is just more laws, more regulations, more ways to manipulate. Literally, that’s all it is. Reform means how can we tighten the noose?

Timothy: That is correct. Do you know the Wenatchee, well, it was a witch hunt, child abuse prosecution. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before. It’s in Washington State. Washington State has a long history of some pretty vile corruption. There was a group of people that were accused of being Satan worshipers. And of course, it was a cop who was incompetent, I’m going to be nice, at best, and lots of interplay in there that they were clearly being set up. So, it was atrocious. There was a movie made about it, the state of Washington realized they had quote unquote made a mistake, right? Well, the first thing that King County prosecutors did after that, because there was an agency set up that the goal was to ensure that didn’t happen. So, King County prosecutors sent a message like, I’m going to exaggerate a little bit, a day after like this, this whole unit was developed, saying, you know, we got to watch out because sometimes the appearance of evil or the appearance of corruption or the appearance of injustice is a real concern. What he was doing was he was infiltrating that which should have been separate to weed out those who are lying and those who are not, and prosecuting mothers or fathers or anybody else that is manipulating a child to make a false accusation. And he sucks it into the system and now controls it. Now, it’s not an agency by which the truth is arrived at. They work fully for the prosecution. There’s no separate. I want to say it’s the Harborview Center or something like that. They are, and let’s go to Zephaniah chapter 3, verse 3. Jacob, that’s on actually page five of the notes. And this describes our current situation. It’s kind of ironic, a lot of times I’m on different agencies or whatever talking about it and people go, that really applies to this? I go, God’s word applies to everything. All scripture is useful. So, this certainly explains Seattle’s King County prosecutors, Washington state. Zephaniah 3:3. Go ahead and read verse 3 there, Jacob.

Jacob: Her officials are roaring lions; her rulers are evening wolves who leave nothing for the morning.

Timothy: Once you’re accused, there’s nothing left. They’re roaring lions. They have the PR. We’ll come after you. We’re happy to bring our authority on you. They will devour and chew you up. You could be innocent. And many times, you probably are innocent and they’re just roaring, scaring you to death. Because you know, you know that when they come to you, you’re broke. It’s gone. And if the police haven’t already stolen your money and never going to give it back for some other false pretense or even a good pretense, they shouldn’t be allowed to take it until you’ve been proven guilty. That’s just how it’s supposed to go. They’re roaring lions and they will terrify you. That’s what they try to do, to terrify you. That’s their goal. Her rulers are evening wolves. So, we got lions and we got wolves. And they’re just going about the city looking to see who they can devour, who they can accuse. And it says they leave nothing for morning. There’s nothing left over. You could go all the way through a trial, go through the whole thing. The jury finds you innocent. You’re set free. Are you not broke? Are you not devastated? There’re very few people that have an unlimited amount of reserve of money that when that’s done, they’re richer when they started, it just doesn’t happen. The average person, the humble person, and they can be guilty of some crime. It depends on the crime, but it doesn’t matter. They’re going to crush you no matter. Whether it’s a small joint that somebody is living in prison for 20 years, because they smoked a joint back when the laws didn’t allow it to the most horrendous crimes. It doesn’t matter. It’s all treated the same. They just devour you up, destroy your family, make everything you do vile and wicked. There’s just no presenting of the law. And the law itself is corrupt. Just to be a prosecutor police means; I’m going to support a system that is fully corrupt. If you think otherwise, and you can prove otherwise, please give me a call and prove to me. That’s not what our legal system is today. Look at the Zephaniah 3:4, Her prophets. And you might as well just put prosecutors. Her prophets are arrogant. It is an overweening arrogance. They are treacherous men. You can’t trust them, no matter what they say or what they do. You know everything is treacherous. It always has a step that could go wrong. Or they’re going to, you know, everything you say can and will be used against you. You can say hello. Oh, he was trying to butter up to me. He was trying to flatter me. It’s not that they won’t do it, they will do it. If you don’t say anything, the Supreme Court says, that’s also can be considered admission of guilt. They are just treacherous in everything. There’s no way out once they turn and look at you and say, we’re after you. They are treacherous men. Her priests profane the sanctuary and do violence to the law. That’s what’s going on today. We have all these laws in the books and they’re just tearing, prosecutors shred it apart without any accountability. Everybody covers for them. The judges just make sure they’re protected because they’re part of the system. Criminals always protect other criminals. They do violence law. They just tear it up. And it doesn’t matter what it is, whether it’s building codes or whether it’s being arrested for something. It’s just violence to the law. There’s just no easiness to the law. There’s no, it’s doing you good, or this is smooth, or this is for the benefit of society. They are ravaged, arrogant wolves and lions, tear us apart. Am I wrong at all on this, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: But get your eyes on the Lord. Don’t resort to violence because it’s only going to get worse. Zephaniah 3:5 says, The Lord within her is righteous. He does no wrong. I know a lot of supposed atheists like to bring up scriptures and go, oh, how could a guy do this? Well, you know, maybe I can answer those later, but he does no wrong. He doesn’t do wrong. Morning by morning, he dispenses his justice. And every new day he does not fail, yet the unrighteous know no shame. God is out there doing his justice, performing it day after day, but nobody notices. Nobody will acknowledge it. And those prosecutors will not what? In their unrighteousness, they have no shame. In fact, they pat each other on the back, they give each other awards. They benefit each other all over the place. The Lord though, within her is righteous. He does no wrong. Get your eyes upon God, even as you cry out for justice. Morning by morning, look around. He dispenses his justice, whether that be something that befalls them or his conviction or an unsound mind, or he’s letting prisoners free, or he reveals somebody to be a lie. Let me tell you, all, anything good like that comes from God. It’s not coming from the system, and it’s not coming from, you know, survivor benefit type things. It’s coming because God stirs up truth to bring it to the top. You’re not going to get it any other way, period. Nothing. You look at situations where somebody’s accused of a crime, and I’m talking from a, kind of a non-godly point, and they’ve been in prison for 20 years. For example, there was one case where a guy was in prison for like 25, 30 years, let’s say. And he hadn’t committed the crime. Well, there was a parole hearing like 10 years before that, in which a guy confessed that the guy that was in prison for all this time was not part of it. Well, that testimony sat within the system for 10 years before he was ever released. So, the whole system is designed that you do not get justice, yet there’s no shame. Yet these unrighteous prosecutors, police, there’s no shame. In fact, they’ll just incorporate it in. In fact, in this particular case, the guy was set free, and of course, the prosecutor goes, yeah, whenever we realize that we’ve done wrong, you know, prosecutors should not be just concerned about prosecution, but also about justice. Oh, really? I doubt, seriously, the parole board was brought up on prosecution for withholding evidence that shows the person to be innocent. Do you think so?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: No. Of course not. It’s all smoke and mirrors. It’s all lies. It’s all arrogance. And my concern really is for them to repent, but also, where are the Christians that go into the courtroom and go, this is nonsense and exposing that. Not from some emotional overzealous thing, bring the wisdom in, bring the truth in. Granted you won’t serve on the jury, or maybe you’ll be halfway through the jury and decide, okay, I’ve got enough evidence, I’m going to stand up and say, that’s enough. Don’t worry. They’ll cover their bases and you’ll need to be wise about it. Please don’t take this as any legal advice or something you should do. This is serious. These are, let me back up here. These are very vicious people. They do not like people who reprove in court. They thoroughly detest anyone who would dare bring in truth into the jury system or into the courtroom. So, before you go, oh yeah, and get all fired up, you have to be trained in the Lord how to handle this kind of persecution. You have to let God deal with your sin on a daily basis so that you can go into the lion’s den. There’s some growth that has to happen. That’s why I’m so concerned about the church. The church as a whole, because as the end times start coming, they’re not prepared. It takes time to be trained by God to be able to stand up against these men and to understand what justice is and how to have the courage of truth. That comes from being dead to self, hating your own life. Think of one of the scriptures, you know, hate your father, your mother, your wife and your children, your brothers and sisters, right? What these prosecutors and all the government systems hold against you is your family and your friends and they’ll come in and destroy that. Well, if you’re free from that, if you’ve surrendered all of that to the Lord, then then God can work great boldness in you. But they will seek to quiet you to shut you down by saying, yeah, we’ll go for you.

They may not, you know, they’re smart enough. Sometimes I guess to go, well, you know, we’re not coming. They’re going to imply what they’re going to do and you’re going to understand well what they’re going to do. We had police sitting down the street from my house. When I raised objections, it’s not like they quietly went away. They would park at the end of the street or they would drive by to intimidate. That’s what they do and that causes a tremendous amount of tension. In fact, the Wenatchee thing I spoke to, most of those ended in divorce because that’s the end result of what they’re doing. These people know no shame and if you’re going to stand up and be bold, that doesn’t mean you’re going to win the victory. It doesn’t mean that you’re not going to spend time in prison. In fact, we don’t have time to look at what persecution is and what’s involved, but the odds are it’s different than what you have in mind in terms of victory. Please do not believe I can do all things through Christ in the worldly cultural Christianity kind of way. Or that I am an overcomer in a worldly cultural Christian way. You have to have the mind of Christ to understand what does it mean to really overcome? What does it mean to stand strong in those things? And so, I’ll have to stop at that point. But this is just the warning to sit down, count the costs, let Jesus teach you to stand up for the truth. Don’t think you’re just going to be able to have a pop quiz of injustice and be able to stand up and be strong. God does not give grace to people that have not surrendered everything. He might give discipline, but you’re not going to be able to wind up being strong and powerful. All right. Let’s go down to Psalm 58:1. You know, to those musicians out there, somebody write a song on this. Yeah. Where are the songs on this stuff where the church is singing this? Eh, whatever. They’re not facing any persecution. I hate to say it, clearly God is against slavery, but during the Civil War time, or during that time when slavery was a part of the United States, some of the most beautiful hymns of trust in God came out of the most severe suffering. I know that’s offensive to hear. I don’t like this one. I would condemn slavery that, you know, you got to go through this whole disclaimer, just to simply say, God worked a lot of good through the whole situation. So where are the songs on this? It’s because the church wants to get along with the world. They want to get along with the prosecutors or the police. They are our enemies. Do we not know that they again are shutting us down? Our free speech has been stolen. Where do you think that’s coming from? It’s not coming just from Congress. It’s coming from your local prosecutor down the street. All right. Psalm 58:1. It’s a Psalm. This is what they’re singing. Do you rulers speak justly? I won’t beat up on the issue or that statement. Jacob, do they?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: No. Do you judge a rightly among men? Hallelujah. No, not a way that’s not there. Do you judge up rightly moment? Not at all. Not at all. There’s nothing up right about it. Psalm 58:2, No, in your heart, you devise injustice. What do prosecutors and the legislature and lawyers and police? They devise how we can take the law and bend it all the way into justice without getting caught. That’s what they do. Right? Am I wrong on that?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Look at all the rights that have been stripped from us. Washington state has stolen our free speech rights. They’ve stolen our property. They’re taking more and more control. Pulled over by the police. I know they whine and complain. They have to follow these rules. It’s all a sham. It’s all a sham. They’ll just bend the rules and they’ll just break it. They practice in their heart, deep down, known in your heart you devise injustice. When we would contact King County prosecutors and try and try desperately to listen, to get, they just devised how to shut us down. They devised how to ignore us. They were practicing, and they had been practicing, and they had it down to fine art, and they had the power to shut down the truth, and to promote a detective who word for word set up a hate crime. And your hands meet out violence on the earth, really. There’s no abortion in the land. There’s no this constant cry to kill our children. There are no encouraging women, tempting women to be outside the home rather than loving their children. You meet out violence on the earth even from birth the wicked go astray. In the womb they’re not repenting. I’m not going to explain the miraculous thing of this, but that’s what’s there. From the womb they are wayward and speak lies. It’s who they are. They will not repent. God knows from the beginning what is going on in the womb and who they are, and he allows all of this to happen to save those few individuals who will cry out to him day and night for justice. He goes on to say in verse 4, Their venom is like the venom of a snake. These prosecutors are snakes. And they have a venom that paralyzes communication, paralyzes talk. We’ve talked about this before, that when you go into trial, prosecutors can pretty much say anything they want to, bring in and drag out things as long as they want to. But the defense is so hemmed in, especially these false accusers, they don’t punish liars, they reward them. It says, Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears. No matter what we said, no matter how we approached it, they just could not, these King County, Seattle prosecutors, could not be charmed, they would not listen. Now, if I had to come in with flattery, if I had to come in with a false humility, oh, we’re so sorry, yeah, you know, I may be a cult leader, I may have done some mistake, if I had to come in whining and flattering them at the same time. Maybe I might’ve got them to wake up. Certainly, we could have done a plea bargain thing. So, you know, if you’re arrested by King County, they love flattery by the way. So just bring it on. I can’t do that because I don’t want to go to hell for flattering somebody. Psalm 58:5, that will not heed the tune of the charmer, no matter how skillful the enchanter may be. That’s an amen, that’s a hallelujah. No matter what you do, no matter what you. Let me warn people. You really think these prosecutors are normal, reasonable people. They are not. They do not think like you. They redefine words. You think, well, you know, I’ll just go tell the prosecution, please, this is why I’m innocent. It doesn’t matter. You can’t charm them. The truth certainly doesn’t charm them. They find that to be in the way. And so, they will either ignore it or shut it down or hide evidence or all the nasty things they do or bring in peripheral stuff that has nothing to do with the crime just to enliven the mob, the lynch mob, to find a conviction. But one of the first things they tried to do with us is they just break you financially. And they just kept dragging out, hoping the business would collapse so we would all collapse and then we could plea bargain and there wasn’t a trial. That was their goal. That’s why they kept delaying all the things. It had nothing. I couldn’t charm them. I couldn’t go, look, you got a problem here. You got a policeman committing a crime, multiple crimes, setting up a hate crime. They’re not, I couldn’t even get close to that. And let alone on the facts of the case as we present there. We had studies, everything, and it’s all at our expense going broke extremely fast. And that’s what they wanted. They didn’t care. They absolutely, you could throw all that stuff there. It didn’t matter because they knew the judges are in their pocket. The judges aren’t even going to allow you to put that into court. We were lucky to get in. Well, luck’s the wrong word. God’s grace allowed us to get some of that stuff in there and to do those things. But again, they’re snakes, they’re vipers, you can’t charm them. What am I telling you? I don’t know. Seek the living God because it’s from him you’re going to get justice. Just know your enemy well and call them to repentance. If you’re going to be pulled in, call them to repentance. There might be one bailiff, one person, one prisoner, somebody that actually wants to repent.

JF, who lives in Brazil, said of the book, Even the Demons Believe, I would like to tell you that I’m doing chapter 7 right now. It’s the second time I have read the book, Even the demons believe, and I think it’s an impacting book, literally impacting. Let us say the first time you read it, you get shocked, outraged, and maybe sort of mad at the author. However, a second reading makes you go deep into your own spiritual life and church experiences. I presume it has gotten people exactly where Pastor Williams wanted them to be, cornered and faced off by their own attitude towards the Almighty.

If you are interested in the full and complete gospel message before becoming a disciple of Jesus, then the book, Even the Demons Believe, might prove helpful. As the angel told the Apostle Peter in Acts 5:20, Go stand in the temple courts, he said, and tell the people the full message of this new life.

The book, Even the Demons Believe, will also guide those claiming the name Christian to test themselves. As the Apostle Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 13:5, Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you unless of course you fail the test.

The Consider Podcast. Today’s events, Paulorrow’s realities, www.consider.info.

The Justice and Legal segment on the Consider podcast is only concerned with calling all individuals to repentance. No matter which side of the bar one is on, the demand is for repentance in accordance with Amos 5:24, Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream. Nothing discussed should be considered legal advice. Want legal advice? Pay a lawyer. Want justice? Pray to the Holy God. As the living God recorded in Deuteronomy 16:20, All must follow justice and justice alone.

The listener assumes all responsibility for their actions or refusal to act in accordance with justice and justice alone. Because the legal system hides their corrupt deeds in darkness, any discussion is fought with inadequate information. The listener should keep in mind that the news media only communicates what sells. Finally, make note that the vast majority of what is called legal is in fact not lawful. The Consider Podcast, examining today’s wisdom, madness, and folly, www.consider.info.


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