Timothy: Let’s talk about Trump, but first before we get to Trump let’s talk about Ozzie Osborne, Black Sabbath and King Louis the 14th.
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Timothy: Jacob, why don’t you explain to everybody what a CDM moment is?
Jacob: CDM moment is a common moment, something that typically happens in our world or society and we stop to talk about it but there’s a difference. Usually, we’ve said that there’s spiritual things, things we look at in scripture or there’s common things that we talk about that happens in the world today.
Timothy: Don’t you like these pop quiz.
Jacob: Yeah, pop quiz. Yeah, in case anybody thinks I was prepared for that I was not or I wasn’t told.
Timothy: No, no. I always hate it when teachers or in sermons will ask questions. It’s like well they know exactly where they’re headed. I do it because you got to do it but yeah, it kind of put you on the spot.
Jacob: see you in moment.
Timothy: Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. It’s a common discussion moment. Meaning we’re going to talk about Trump. But that’s not the gospel. So, I’m not about or prepared to lay down my or get into some super debate about this. It’s just a common discussion moment. It certainly concerns the gospel so that’s why we’re talking about it, but it’s a common discussion. So, don’t anybody confuse that when I’m preaching just the pure message or the complete message of the gospel. That’s a different attitude and a different way that it’s approached than what we’re looking at here today. We’re going to talk about Trump or eventually get there but We’re going to look at this obviously from a spiritual point of view and it’s going to take us some time to lay a foundation. So, first we’re going to talk about Ozzy Osborne. Now you know who Ozzy Osborne is of Black Sabbath right Jacob?
Jacob: Yes, I do.
Timothy: Yeah, kind of a bad guy definitely represents the evil in the world has led many astray, right? Only really bad people would name their dog after a Black Sabbath, right?
Jacob: Yeah. I agree.
Timothy: Yeah, you have this like say you had a cute cattle dog and it’s the second cutest dog in the whole world. You wouldn’t name that Ozzy, because why? You know because of who Ozzie Osborne represents, right?
Timothy: Alright, well now that we got that settled. Then we’re going to talk about King Louis the 14th, which is going to have a lot more in common with Trump than people realize and then finally we’ll get to Trump. I want to repeat again. I’m not trying to influence voting one way or another we’re looking at this totally from a Standpoint. Let’s go to second Corinthians chapter 5 verse 16. The problem that we have in talking about Trump or really anybody that’s heavily criticized is that the minute you bring up to talk about the person people are usually on one side of the issue and the emotions are extremely high. And it’s easy to get into a fight or a quarrel about it because to mention the person’s name. If you mention Trump that there’s like a goad reaction either way. You’ve either got the neighbor down the street who’s running a flag up that says Trump in 2024, or you’ve got the person that you meet somewhere else is just hostile to the name Trump.
I remember I was on a walk the other day and lady got around just bad-mouthing Trump just going at Trump. So, I finally turned to her and I go name me one policy that you disagree with about Trump, because all the rest it was just this kind of emotional visceral kind of response. Well, there was this long pause and she literally was fishing for a topic to say why disagree about that. The topic she finally came up with was well Trump won’t require gun permits and so that’s why he’s bad. Which of course when you compare the amount of motion that’s associated with that particular issue it doesn’t line up. So, there’s a lot more spiritually going on today with Trump and Biden and these elections. And that’s what we’re really going to talk about. Most people, let me stop there. Is that anything you want to add to that, Jacob?
Jacob: No, make sense.
Timothy: Okay, so everything’s all kind of confused or unspiritual and confused and so we really have a problem. One of the main problems is a lot of people when I say a lot, it’s probably most individuals look at Jesus Christ from a worldly point of view. And I’m talking about people that claim the name that are in churches or involved in this political arena while they attack on Jesus Christ. Remember, one of the first foundational things that we looked at and before we go to second Corinthians 5:16, Jacob let me remind everybody of first Corinthians chapter 2 verse 2 where Paul writes and he says, “For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ whom crucified”. So, there has to be this resolve that okay, I’m going to talk politics but I’m not involved in politics. I’m walking on the foamy waves of political discussion and turmoil and he Motion, but I’m walking on water with Jesus Christ concerning those things. Would I be involved in politics if that’s what I call me to, but you better have some strong fellowship.
You better be living the complete message. You better be letting God arrange your fellowship because it’s a dangerous territory but everything in the world is dangerous. Doesn’t matter what you’re involved in. What you can be going to church and it’s dangerous. You can be out in the world and it’s dangerous. You can go to your job and it’s spiritually dangerous. All of it’s dangerous. There to be a resolve. You have to go, okay, I’m walking into the situation. I’m going to resolve and it takes some real effort and suffering. How difficult it is when you hear a discussion going on whether political or whatever to not be goaded into responding, right?
Timothy: But so, you have to resolve like okay I’m not going to be pulled into this thing very far. I’m only going to do it enough to get to Jesus Christ. The reason that I turned to this particular woman and said, okay well, name me one policy that you disagree with about Trump was not because I wanted to get in and win the debate on a political level. I was trying to break up the visceral hatred or animosity and let’s get down to an issue. And then the minute there was this pause and the was this thinking about, okay yeah, that’s it. I dealt with that and then I moved straight to the gospel of Jesus Christ. They weren’t an interest in the gospel of Jesus Christ but that’s what I would do. So, even if I was running for office or involved in getting somebody elected, there is a resolve and pity anybody actually involve in politics on the heavy level. Because the fellowship that would be necessary to keep yourself pure in that, it just is not available. It just is not available. In fact, the gospel of Jesus Christ is not thoroughly understood. It’s all mixed up. that’s why we this problem and that’s what God’s trying to work out. Spiritually, he’s doing some sifting here and I don’t want to get too far ahead. Jacob, go ahead and read second Corinthians 5:16.
Jacob: So, from now on, we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer”.
Timothy: This whole business of God, Jesus, family, American pie, American Christian, guns, whatever it is you want to be in line. That’s a worldly point of view of Jesus Christ. It’s looking at Jesus. It it’s examining Jesus. Might even quote a few scriptures here and there but it all has a worldly point of view. The Holy Spirit has not yet crucified the opinions or put to death the thoughts about Jesus Christ and who he is in our worldly sense. So, you can get a lot of people to say the name, oh, I’m a Christian. I believe in God. We can go down the line. In fact, Trump is going to say he believes in Jesus or that he’s a prophet and so on. So, but he’s looking at Jesus from a worldly point of view. And the people that are actually following him along in those lines are thinking they’re somehow voting for or an alliance with God by voting for Trump are looking at Jesus from a worldly point of view.
And I’m not saying you shouldn’t vote for Trump and I’m not saying you should. You should cast the vote according to what Jesus Christ would have you to do but that that’s not necessarily as easy as people think they are. Anyway, second Corinthians 5:16. So, from now on, from now and from this moment on if you’re going to listen to this podcast, you are to regard nobody. Not your neighbor, whether they’re Democrat or Republican or whatever from a worldly point of view. This is not a worldly discussion about politics or a worldly discussion about preserving our life or doing this or that or the other. So, it’s not a worldly point of view that we once regarded Jesus Christ. That’s why you have to grow up.
I need to back up and emphasize one point here. Part of the problem again is to mention Trump he’s so heavily criticized the people are just highly defended to defend him which I understand that thoroughly. He certainly has been suffering the great harshness of the deep state the criticisms, all the things that come out. They’re unjustified, that’s for sure. But that’s our focus. That’s not what we’re going to be looking at. So, strip away all of your emotional like whether you’re defending Trump or not and let’s look at Trump from a spiritual point of view and then resolve to know so to speak Jesus Christ crucified and Trump. Let’s do that. Jacob, go ahead and play the next video and let’s dive into this just a little bit more.
Video: It never made sense for evangelical Republicans to support Donald Trump. It never made sense. And so now use whatever phrase you like. The chickens are coming home to roost. What goes around comes around. The bill has come to whatever. This was a sort of fasting pact all along for the evangelicals. They really didn’t like Hillary. They sort of wanted Ted Cruz and then that didn’t work out and Trump called Ted Cruz’s wife ugly and things didn’t go well and ultimately, they had Trump or Hillary as their choice. And then it was Trump or Biden and Biden’s Catholic and a lot of evangelicals don’t like that either. And so, they went with Trump overwhelmingly but it never made sense. Look at Trump’s behavior, look at Trump’s past statements, the extra marital affairs, the profanity, the way that he has talked about women in the past. It doesn’t align with what the evangelicals want us to believe other Christian values.
Timothy: Okay, although that’s true, but it’s kind of mixed up and it’s certainly very shallow. Now, when I say it’s true, it’s only true in a sense of some statements that he’s making. It’s not truth upon truth. Yes, really it just comes down to as a choice between Trump and Hillary. That’s it. The rest of that is meaningless. It doesn’t matter what. Do we expect any of our politicians to be Godly, Jacob?
Timothy: Now, there’s none that we expect to be righteous. In fact, I have an ad. We’re going to play it now, but it’s vote sandbag. If you want to lay down a principle about who to vote for, you vote for the candidate mister or missus Sandbag. The one that will hold back the corruption or at this point hold back the deep state and allow for at least a breathing room to be able to preach the gospel. But that’s not the same as supporting Trump. It’s just supporting the best candidate out of a miserable choice. That’s all that is. I’m not sure what he’s really saying. Do you know what he’s really saying there Jacob?
Jacob: I think he’s trying to explain like maybe kind of how we ended up here, but again he’s using the very sort of worldly logical viewpoint. It has nothing to do with Bible or the scriptures.
Timothy: We’ve also had the animosity and the hatred toward Trump is what’s kind of amazing. He’s not just saying, okay Christians or evangelicals voted for Trump because Hillary was there and kind of leaving it there. He’s saying, oh because you did that because you made that choice between Hillary and Trump, now the chickens are coming home to roost. And Trump somehow this inherently evil guy or more than Biden. That’s the implication there. It’s like well where’s that coming from? That has nothing to do with anything. Trump’s no more evil than Biden. In fact, indeed on a Christian salvation level Biden and Trump are the same thing. Trump’s no more Christian than Biden is. That’s equal. In terms of actual corruption and lawlessness it’s certainly in my opinion and by the evidence, Biden is far worse than Trump, right?
Timothy: Trump may not, Trump may have had extra mental affairs. Well, he probably did. Trump may have been pro-abortion. Trump may be but okay, that’s kind of meaningless if Trump is saying I will protect your freedom of speech. I will ensure proper elections and so on and I will not fall prey to the emotional lying that is going on just to vilify somebody else, okay? Or less than the person well then that my vote would be pulled that direction. That’s not to say that Trump’s a good guy or that he’s a Christian. He’s just not as bad as the bad guy. Now he could be totally lying. All his words could be total lie. But Biden’s not lying about what he’s doing. That’s the ironic part about it. Biden is saying I’m or the Democrats we’re going to do all these evil things. And are they doing those evil things?
Jacob: Yes, they are.
Timothy: Okay. Trump goes along and says, okay, I’m going to do all these things and he doesn’t succeed at them and he barely gets through with any of them. And he may not do any of them and he may be equal to Biden on the actual outcome, but at least he’s giving the words or the lip service to what is proper to do. So, why would I vote for somebody that’s blatantly in my face saying, we’re going to destroy the family. We’re going to take your kids. We’re going to make sure that you have to acknowledge that males are not males and females are not females. We’re going to go down to complete lawlessness. We’re going to throw open the borders. We’re going to flood the country with drugs. Why would I reasonably in a logical way be voted voting that direction?
Now my God might have me vote for Biden in order to bring Jesus back sooner, but Trump is at least saying, we’ll secure the borders. We’ll put try and put an end to words. At least giving me the words. Now remember this is a common discussion point. At the end of the day, it may not matter. Anything you want to add to that particular angle of its Jacob?
Jacob: No not really.
Timothy: Alright. Let’s I’m taking that is I’m pretty clear.
Timothy: Alright. Well, let’s go to Proverbs chapter 16 verse 4 and let’s begin to talk about what God is doing. What is God doing with Trump? What is he doing with the Democrats? Meaning spiritually what is he doing? I don’t mean what is he doing with them? Meaning God is using the Democrats and the Republicans to achieve his goal. Let me that. God is moving and working to bring about his will and his direction and his judgement by using the Democrats and the Republicans. And in fact, God is doing that with a lot of people. Well, anybody. Jacob read Proverbs 16:4 and read it kind of slow and let it sink in to people.
Jacob: “The Lord works out everything for his own ends. Even the wicked for a day of disaster”.
Timothy: The Lord works out everything. You walk in the neighborhood. “God determine where you’re going to live”, Acts says, right? He can determine the address, the time in which you live. Now you can move next door if you want. But whatever the case is, God is working that out to his own ends. So, if a Democratic president gets in that’s for God’s ends. What we’re trying to discover here is what is God ending with. What we’re he headed with this. Not what I want. And this is the problem. You’ve got evangelical Christians or conservative Christians or conservative news groups or whatever. They want Trump or some conservative person. Not everybody wants Trump. But they want the conservative person that’s not a Democrat. But God’s working out his own ends of what he wants to. Even the wicked for a day of disaster.
When we went through the hate crime, God is working within the judicial system that won’t repent right now every day in their life he is fashioning and moving them toward the day of their disaster and their destruction unless they repent, which is obviously what we hope they do. So, God is completely in control people. When you hear the church say God is in control yeah, that’s true. But what they’re not acknowledging is what is God working. Well, God is working judgement upon the United States, God is moving the world toward the last days. So, it’s not going to be revival of America or make America great again, he’s also sifting. He’s giving the people two choices. The conservative choice, let’s say, and the liberal choice. Both are of equal sin. Let me repeat that. The conservative element is just as much sinful as the liberal side or the libertine is what I like to say because it’s just lawlessness on both sides. You have to admit that it’s lawless at the end of the day, right? I mean, the Republicans don’t do anything, correct?
Timothy: And by doing nothing, lawlessness increase. The Democrats are actively involved in lawlessness and perversion, all kinds of. Both are just as guilty. You’re just as guilty if you sit back and do nothing and you’re just as guilty as you act on to do it. So, God is giving a choice here. You have a choice to align yourself with the conservatives or the liberals. Both will be condemned at the end of the day. Because Jesus Christ is only concerned with, God is only concerned with one thing. I resolve to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. All that God is concerned with. All he is focused in on is what, Jacob?
Jacob: Bringing people to repentance.
Timothy: That’s right. Bringing people to repentance. That’s it. But let that kind of lay out there for just a moment. That’s all God is concerned with. If we are a Godly people if we are people that are holy. If we’re giving ourselves to the Lord then we will only be concerned about one thing. Bringing people to repentance. Christians living a life of repentance. Moving on in holiness and righteousness. That’s the only concern. Everything else that I do everything else that I do giving to the poor preaching not preaching mowing my yard. Whatever does I do its only concern with one thing, that is what Jesus Christ and God are concerned with calling people to repentance.
Let’s go to Psalms chapter 58 verse 3, because God does this from the very beginning even before you’re born. We’re not going to have time to go into the wisdom that he’s used with this how this works with free will, all of those things. We’re just looking at the fact that this is the truth. This is a fact. Jacob, why don’t you read 58 verse 3.
Jacob: “Even from birth the wicked go astray. From the womb they are wayward and speak lies”.
Timothy: That’s a Democrat in the womb. That’s a Republican in the womb. That’s an independent. That’s a libertarian. Just take a pic. The wicked. They go astray from birth. And even in the womb they are wayward. There’s no consistency as God is trying to weave who they are and what they are. They’re going wayward. They just fight against it. They don’t want it. Now to you and we can’t see that or understand that. I’m just telling you that’s what the truth is. And it says they speak lies. Well, how does a child in the womb speak lies? I couldn’t tell you that, but I can’t tell you that it’s true. You see people born a certain way and then they move out and their life goes that way. It just becomes solidified. That’s why somewhere along the line, we want to preach and present the gospel to somebody that’s wicked astray even in the womb, or that is wayward and speak lies from the beginning. Because we’re to be a people resolved to bring all people to grace.
If they won’t repent, if they won’t accept and let me repeat that, if they won’t accept the complete gospel. Understand that when I say repent, I mean complete gospel. I don’t mean this token, whitewash, smile and jack Jesus quote all the favorable, comfortable scriptures. I mean the complete gospel. That’s what gets inserted into children that are being born. Into people that are growing up. So, God is intimately involved down to a cellular molecular level. Correct? Isn’t that what Psalm 58 verse 3 says Jacob?
Timothy: Alright, let’s move on to Romans then chapter 9 verse 22. And here God is talking about Pharaoh. And most people I think kind of know at least the basis of that story where the Jews were in slavery in Egypt. God comes along. Moses comes into the situation. He worked all kinds of miracles. And then Pharaoh softens his heart up. He goes, okay yeah, you’re right. You’re right. I did this. I was wrong. Then God hardens Pharaoh’s heart. God hardens Pharaoh’s heart so that he can do another miracle. Now somebody’s going to whine and say, well, then who are we to oppose God? And what’s the point of that? And Pharaoh was getting soft. Why didn’t God just go there, right Jacob? Wouldn’t that be part of the wine?
Jacob: Correct. Or even the question and the question being if you’re not whining, you’re like so God hardened Pharaoh’s hearts. That means more the Israel continue to suffer in their bodies.
Timothy: Correct, and of course they grumbled against Moses and that’s a couple podcasts in the future.
Jacob: Oh yeah. Correct. That’s a whole another yeah, we could anyway shouldn’t that be. Yeah.
Timothy: And that’s what we would find in the church as a whole is it’ll look like maybe somebody decent is getting elected and then all of a sudden, their heart goes hard or things don’t work out. People then start to grumble and they’re going to be Jesus has said, there’ll be a massive falling away in the last days. And part of that problem is everybody’s looking to political and lawyers and legal system and all of that to preserve the way of life. They won’t really fall to the ground and hate their own life. Romans 9: 22. Let’s look at it again. “What if God”, because he is God. “Choosing to show his wrath and make his power known bore with great patience the objects of his wrath, prepared for destruction”. Here’s what’s going on. This isn’t like some mean cruel God. Here’s what’s going on God looks at Pharaoh, he knows Pharaoh is never going to repent. Pharaoh’s never going to repent.
So, rather than just letting Pharaoh do what Pharaoh wants to do which would probably be total instant destruction to everybody involved. God says, okay you know what? I’m going to apply some real wisdom here. I’m going to use Pharaoh’s wickedness against himself and at the same time it’ll be preparing him for the judgement to come and also glorify my name and at the end result we’ll have Moses in this glorious deliverance that I work. So, he’s managing the wickedness to glorify his name. When you Look at the hate crime that we went against or really came against us in Washington state. Logically and I’m going to say repeat that again. Logically, there was absolutely no reason for them to persist as long as they have in all the stupidity. There is no logical argument. There’s no reasonableness about what’s going on. They just refuse to repent and there may have been some soft moments here and there when they were going, you know what? We’re on a wrong course here. That isn’t right.
If God chooses at that point to go, you know what? I’m still not ready to work a deliverance. I’m still not ready to demonstrate what the truth is. He will harden their heart if they refuse to repent. In order to achieve his glory in the end. What if God, Romans 9:22 says, “Choosing to show his wrath and make his power known bore with great patience”. So, God comes in patiently working and weaving and working within the Democrats or the Republicans or the or whoever it might be or the neighbor that opposes you or the police state that’s coming for you or the prosecutors who lust for their prosecutions who lie and do everything they can to destroy you. There might be those moments when they’re just soft and they you know, this isn’t worthwhile. I shouldn’t continue. There were moments within Pharaoh and he said, you know what? This is stupid. Why am I holding on to this? This is only coming out bad for me personally. It’s not even affecting me in a good way, right?
So, by logic, Pharaoh would go, okay, go take your people, get on out. And so, there’s this whole turmoil going on. So, in spite of his own good knowledge, Pharaoh, meaning, he continue to harden his heart. Well, did he harden his heart or God harden his heart to demonstrate his power? It’s very clear. God says, I’m responsible. I’m in charge. I’m working these things out from my own end. Pharaoh is an object of my wrath. He’s an object of my destruction. Now, we have to understand that God which that nobody perished, that all come to repentance. So, Pharaoh has chosen somewhere. I don’t know if it was in the womb. I don’t know if it was later on and looking back on everybody’s life out there, they will have those moments when God came to them either through somebody preaching or in a dream or whatever. They will be held accountable for not repenting and when God sees you and goes, you will not repent. You will not change.
So, tell you what, I’m going to arrange this thing so that it glorifies my name while working your judgement at the same time and also offering you an opportunity to repent at the same time. God is able to do all of those things. So, with great patience, God is working within the Democratic Party. Within great patience, God is working within the Republican Party or the Libertarian Party. Or are there any other parties out there, Jacob? There probably are. I just don’t know what they are.
Jacob: There’s like smaller ones. I don’t know. Isn’t there like, no, I’m thinking of like the UK, the Green Party. I don’t know.
Timothy: Yeah, I know. It’s all splintered all over the place so with great patience he’s going okay you’re an object of my wrath and all of the political government systems are an object of his wrath. We do understand that, because all government agencies no matter what level belong to the evil one. The evil one offered to Jesus that if Jesus would worship Satan, he would give him all the governance of the world. So, there isn’t a bureaucrat out there that doesn’t belong to the evil one unless of course they’re a true disciple of Jesus Christ. That’s on a basic fundamental we see all the time.
The only reason that governments can operate in the dark is because bureaucrats give him the power. And when the Nazi war crime trials came about, that was part of their dilemma. Everybody was responsible who didn’t actively oppose it. That’s just how it works. In the same way, the only thing that gives the deep state power are the small minions in there that love the darkness. Well, God is working right now his wrath in their lives moving it toward their destruction at the same time he’s going to make his power known. Any comments, Jacob?
Timothy: Let’s go to Romans chapter 9 or we’re actually backing up. Why don’t you read verse 17 & 18, Jacob?
Jacob: Romans 9:17 & 18. “For the scripture says to Pharaoh, I raised you up for this very purpose that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth. Therefore, God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy and he hardens whom he wants to harden”.
Timothy: For the scripture says to pharaoh. Do you get that? God is talking to Pharaoh. We see here the wisdom and the love. If God is directly talking to somebody and he goes, look, I’m raising you up for this very purpose that I might display my power. In other words, you’re an object of my destruction. Pharaoh has an opportunity to go, well not me how about somebody else. A broken contrite heart, God will not refuse. So, it’s very clear that Pharaoh doesn’t mind. God says, okay, if you don’t mind, then I’m going to do this. Now, right now, people in Washington State had better get themselves spiritually prepared, because there are some very nasty, ugly, dark things. If the people running for election right now in Washington State actually achieve it, there’s a very foundation of evil and wickedness about ready to come in the land. And the way that you have to look at this or go back into the prayer closet get crucified to your flesh that wants to keep your own life is, okay God, how are you going to glorify your name. How you going to show your power in this situation? If it is achieved, if they get what they are after, the battleground is going to get pretty hot and pretty heavy.
The question then is, how do we preach the gospel or do we try to save America or do we try to save our own life or try to protect ourselves? We’ll get more into that later. So, God says to Pharaoh, I raised you up. I put you in that position. You have to stand. Think of who’s ever running for office whether on a state level or a national level or your local level. God is raising them up for his purpose. God is raising them up for their purpose. Now that I’m not telling you, you shouldn’t oppose them or preach the truth or vote for them. I’m just telling you that you have to see right now rather than looking this from worldly point of view who’s getting in office and who’s not that you have to ask yourself okay what is God trying to achieve at this moment. And then the second question is, Lord how do you want me to obey you in this matter? How do you want me to testify to the truth? Do you want me to be silent? Remember Jesus, he didn’t talk to Herod. Didn’t say a single word.
So, I’m not telling you, you have to go say something. You have to be obedient. Whereas to Pilate, Jesus did talk. Handling different political situations requires a very deep surrender to the Holy Spirit and knowing what to do and not to do and what God has in mind. BotPaul line, whether you like this or not, I don’t really care. Romans 9:18 says, “Therefore, God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy and he hardens whom he wants to harden”. In short, God is working out a glorious wisdom by hardening some people and softening other people and it’s all just. It’s all proper. So far, nobody is repented within the King County, Seattle, Washington State area, right? So, he’s just going to work them out for his destruction. That’s how it’s going to happen. And if they don’t want to Respond to God’s mercy that he wants to work because there I guarantee you, he has talked to them directly whether they perceive it or not. He goes, okay fine, then I’ll harden your heart and I will glorify my name. Whether it be in your destruction or whether it be by showing you mercy. It’s up to you. Any comments Jacob on any of that before we kind of move on?
Timothy: Alright, so let’s move on. There’re two things. God is judging the Christian church. God is giving people Trump or conservative values. Because not everybody within the church likes Trump. That’s very clear. So, let’s just say it’s Trump because that’s who we’re talking about. God is judging the Christian church. To align yourself with Trump because you think he’s going to win America back. Which he may or may not. We hope that some of the good he has, holds back the wickedness so we can preach the gospel that way. But you know what? At the end of the day if he loses and they steal the election again we just go on out and we keep preaching the gospel. But the concern is not whether the elections are fair or whether they’re cheated or whatever. The question is God is allowing it or God is working in and he’s hardening and doing all of those things. How then do I respond?
It reminds me of Moses when he comes down off the mountain and he says, everybody for the Lord come over here and everybody for wickedness go over there. There’s a division being taken place and both are a trap. If you go for the conservative voting, save America kind of thing or Trump. That’s just as much judgment as going to the lawless liberty nonsense people that are on the democratic side. God is just working his judgement. God is giving us secondly a warning. The judgement is at hand. All of this is really just kind of delaying the inevitable. America does not deserve, has not deserved, will not be resurrected. There will be no revival at all, at any level. It is time for judgement not only just on America but the whole world.
So, there’s this division. Taking place and you have to decide, am I going to resolve to know nothing but Jesus Christ from crucified and let God dissipatedly teach me to hate my own life to give up everything and follow him or am I going to get pulled in by all these peripheral things and not preach to people that are trapped in going those directions. Need to just pause here and let’s look at Ozzy Osborne for a moment. I want to emphasize how detailed and how God is working certain individuals for his wrath. Jacob, would go ahead and play Ozzy there.
Video: Ozzie Osborne once said, there’s really no possible medical reason why I should still be alive. Maybe my DNA could say why. Ozzy was on to something. Take a look.
Man: DNA experts say Ozzy Osborne is genetically programmed to survive a life of hard party. Author Bill Sullivan writes that Osborne is a genetic mutant predisposed to drug and alcohol addiction allowing him to consume them in massive quantities. He says addiction has more to do with our DNA then our moral fiber. In his new book, Sullivan writes, there’s a gene variant that helps determine the food you like and even if you’ll be a murderer. He says, our emotions are biological and our genes program brain chemicals to cause us to feel our feelings. This leads us to wonder, do our genes determine more about our destiny than we ever knew?
Man 2: Microbiology professor and author of “Please to Meet Me, Genes, Germs, and the Curious Forces” that make us who we are. Please welcome Bill Sullivan to the show. Bill right off the bat so that everyone gets engaged. Let’s start with Ozzy Osborne. You call him a genetic mutant.
Bill Sullivan: That is right and that is not meant to be offensive in any way. We’re all mutants in some sense. Ozzy Osborne is a remarkable specimen because he has survived an incredible amount of abuse that is related to drugs and alcohol. So, what is it about his genome, the sequence of his genes that made him resilient and come out of this relatively unscathed and still rocking at 70 years old? It turns out that he has genes that make him 6x more likely to become addicted to alcohol and drugs than the average person. There’re several reasons for this that have been revealed in the genetic sequence.
Man 3: There are some people that are immune to alcohol and don’t get hangovers. One of these people is legendary music artist Ozzie Osborne. In 2010, scientists decoded his DNA. They found he had a mutation of his ADH4 gene. ADH4 usually makes a protein called alcohol dehydrogenated for which breaks down alcohol. And a mutation of this gene increases the amounts of alcohol his body can detox. It might explain why his liver hasn’t exploded and why some people can keep drinking.
Timothy: Kind of beaten up on this point in scientific American it says, and I’m going to quote that particular study and they’re talking about Ozzy Osborne. “One variant involves a gene that makes CLTCL1, which is really an interesting protein. Ozzy has two copies of an unusual variant that makes him a grossly different version of the protein than most people produce. Here’s a gene that’s central to how nerve cells communicate with each other”. So, it’s curious to us to see a grossly different protein variant. BotPaul line, we’ve kind of got the point, Ozzy’s a different character, created totally different, right Jacob?
Timothy: So, now we’re back to Psalms. “The wicked go astray. Even in the womb, they are liars and wayward”. God then begins for his reasons and his wisdom and his wisdom is perfect to weave it in such a way that Ozzie Osborne was created so that he can drink through drugs and play the music that he does for a reason as an object of his wrath. The reason God is doing that or I should say one reason he’s doing that to give people a choice. Now Satan choosing it for his own advantage. But God is the one that’s in charge and at least allowing if you want to look at it Satan’s doing it or whatever. So, you have Ozzy Osborne with this as vile he can be singing about hell. All things and he can outlive all, the people he’s preaching to because that’s what those concerts are. That’s what his albums are nothing more than preaching. You’ve got millions and millions of people choosing to follow Ozzy Osborne. In fact, it’s almost well really is a religion. You can get into some pretty heated debate if you go after Ozzy Osborne. So, it’s a choice right Jacob?
Timothy: Satan likes it. He keeps these people alive forever. Never knows how dictators seem to last forever. I mean they just go on and on and on. There’s a lot of the reasons for that. So, you have Ozzy Osborne up there. He’s, I do the drugs and all this and the cussing and the swearing and the music and whatever, if you want to call it music. Music and all that kind of thing and he’s doing really well. Well, everybody looking at him go, well, I can do the same thing. When they can’t. They’re not grossly different. They don’t have nerve cells and DNA that’s totally different than everybody else. So, it’s clearly being used to allow people to have a choice. You know what that sounds like Jacob?
Jacob: Sounds like, but well predestination slash you still have a choice though.
Timothy: You do and you and I have had those kinds of discussion. No. This is an election. That’s what a democracy is. This is a democracy right here. This is election. Here’s the candidate. Ozzie Osborne. You vote for Ozzie Osborne or you don’t. And a lot of people do vote. Now switch that to our current election. Republican or Democrat. There’s a choice there. Which one you going to go for? And God is working it out to his own end. You want to see democracy? Everybody wants to define what’s a democracy or Republic democracy or the constitution. Well, let’s just kind of strip that all away for a moment. Now I’m not saying God didn’t bring together or allow the constitution of the United States to be set up in order for the gospel to be preached, but not to create a Godly America which never existed.
Let’s go to Psalms 106 verse 15 and we’re going to see here God’s definition of a democracy. Because when you look at the Old Testament, it was not a democracy. It was who God chose and in fact, well, the only time you really had democracy quote unquote going on is in the Book of Judges and it’s called the Book of Judges for a reason. Because they were always in judgement, always up and down. And in one sense, if we had a good king America would be better off because of the power structures all there. But now we have the deep state because we have quote unquote a democracy. Psalms 106 verse 15. Jacob, go ahead and read that.
Jacob: So, he gave them what they asked for, but sent a wasting disease upon them”.
Timothy: America is getting exactly what it asked for. Even with the elections being cheated, you’re getting what you asked for. You still have a whole slew of individuals voting for corrupt individuals, whether it be republicans. And when I say cheated Republican or Democrats one’s allowing the other to do it. so, this isn’t like was the last election honest or fair. If you look at the history of elections, they’ve always been kind of like massively corrupted. So, this isn’t about one particular election or the January 6th bid or anything else. This is just about the fact that there is America’s given a choice and every single time whether you’re a conservative Christian or whether you’re a libertarian. We’re not choosing God; we’re choosing the candidates that we want. And the candidates the conservative individuals want or those that will preserve and save their own life which is the opposite of the gospel. The lawless side of the people want their candidate that will allow them to do anything and everything, because for whatever selfish and again we’re getting down to be still motives here.
We see that both within the police state and the policemen and the prosecutors and those in power. We’re getting way past logical thinking and now you just think of a pack of dogs that once the emotions kick in and once the hormones are there and once, they see what they want to attack, you can’t reason with them and we’re at that stage either side. Doesn’t matter which side it is. So, he gave them what they asked for. They won the election. We got what we’re after, but sent a wasting disease upon them. Next up is King Louie the 14th, but that’s on the next podcast. Jacob, take us out of here.
Closing: This has been the Consider Podcast at www.consider.info where yesterday’s folly is today’s madness. “In the beginning, the unrepentant sinners words are folly. At the end, they are wicked madness”. Ecclesiastes 10:13. Judgement begins with the house of God. Therefore, let everyone who loves the Lord with an undying love. Pick up their cross and walk the talk. As Peter the wrote. “Therefore, prepare your minds for action, be self-controlled”. First Peter 1:13-14. The Consider Podcast, examining today’s events and Paulorrow’s realities. www.consider.info.
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