#82 Leadership Pt. 3 Prosecutor Simmons Bible Study Time

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82 Leadership Pt. 3 Prosecutor Simmons Bible Study Time

Starting: What’s up? Prosecutor Jason Simmons, Bible Study Time, Part 3. Topic? Leadership without persuasive words. Leadership without eloquence. Leadership without superior wisdom. Leadership that is the opposite of King County Courts of Washington State. The Consider Podcast. Examining today’s wisdom, folly and madness. www.consider.info.

Timothy: How’s it going today, Jacob?

Jacob: Going good.

Timothy: Let’s see if I can’t get untongue-tied here. We’re talking about leadership and I got to thinking about my meal that I had with Chef Ramsey. You remember that?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: You don’t remember me having a meal with Chef Ramsey?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Yeah, we had an Italian meal and I wore, I have those, whatever, those super-secret Google glasses that you can hook a camera to and stuff. Kind of an undercover kind of thing.

Jacob: No, I don’t remember that.

Timothy: Yeah, we’d been dialoguing back and forth and, you know, just general chit-chat and stuff. And I suggested, why don’t we go have an Italian meal kind of thing. Went to an Italian restaurant.

Jacob: Okay.

Timothy: And said down now what you’re going to see is I’m recording his response and what he’s looking at. I thought people might enjoy that and it’ll kind of give a real contrast here. So go ahead and play that encounter.

Video: I hope his extra commitment in the kitchen is reflected in the standard of his food. You can close your eyes and actually count the flavors, the seps, the walnuts, the pasta. Very good. I’m pleased to see he’s stuck to a small, very simple Italian menu. And everything’s freshly cooked. This is the kind of food you should be savoring. Real, hearty, rustic, wholesome Italian food. Rich with tomatoes. Nice texture in the meatball. And a perfectly cooked linguine. Lovely. F**k me. Is Letchworth ready for Alex Scott?

Timothy: You don’t remember that, Jacob?

Jacob: No, I don’t remember this.

Timothy: Well, yeah, I remember sitting down with him and I think I ordered, at first, I asked if you had any Chef Boyardee, ravioli kind of thing. And they didn’t. So, they delivered that kind of thing. And then I wanted some extra garlic salt, especially on the breadsticks and that kind of thing. So, we sat down together and had that meal and recorded it.

Jacob: Wow.

Timothy: My question for you, well, let me first go on to say, yeah, it kind of went south later because I shared the scripture, Philippians 3:19, that says, “Their destiny is destruction, their God is their stomach, their glory is their shame. And their mind is unearthly things.” So, it kind of went downhill from there. That’s why the meal was cut short. All right. So, here’s the bottom-line question. Here’s my point. And just to be on the record, no, I don’t know Chef Ramsay. And no, we didn’t sit down for an Italian meal. And no, I didn’t get to share the scripture with him. My question for you is this, Jacob, when Chef Ramsay sits down at a table to eat a meal, and when I sit down and eat the same meal, is it the same thing?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Why is it not the same thing?

Jacob: Because food for the stomach and stomach for the food. And Ramsay is, like, super into it. He wants to close his eyes and count the flavors.

Timothy: Exactly. And he also, and let’s go past, the negative sim part and whether that’s all there. Because I’m sure it was a good meal. Don’t get me wrong.

Jacob: I’m sure it tasted good.

Timothy: But look how he’s trained, his palate and what he can taste and what he expects and the service. And he goes down to detail. He’s not just sitting down to a meal. Like, you and I might be, okay, this is a good lunch, and let’s move on and do something else. Or what’s for dessert? I don’t know if you go there. So, there’s a difference. If you judge by mere appearance, like, you walk into the restaurant, and you didn’t really know who Chef Ramsay was. And he’s sitting there, and I’m sitting there with my little glasses on there. And we both order spaghetti. Would you be able to tell there was a difference?

Jacob: Well, yeah. Because, again, he’s, like, super into it.

Timothy: But no, you’re just looking at it at another table.

Jacob: Oh, you mean the food itself is the same.

Timothy: Food is the same.

Jacob: Yeah, same plate comes out.

Timothy: But when you look at Chef Ramsay eating, and you look at me eating, would you be able to tell any difference without his commentary?

Jacob: Oh, without, no. Not without his commentary, no. It would just be two dudes eating spaghetti and meatball.

Timothy: Right. So, from the service of things, it’s the same behavior.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: But what’s going on inside and how that’s translated. And he’s a multimillionaire, and I’m by no means even close to a multimillionaire. So, there’s a difference in the life and what goes on. Correct?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Mr. Simmons, that’s the difference between your leadership and my leadership. We’re sitting down at the same table. To those on the service of things, you’re in leadership, or King County Prosecutor’s in leadership, and I have a leadership function. But there is no relationship or common ground between the two. They are completely different things. To put it more in perspective, Prosecutor Simmons is more Chef Boyardee, and mine’s more Chef Ramsay.

Jacob: Yeah, it would be flipped in that.

Timothy: What happens is people just judge things by mere appearance. And Jesus, of course, we won’t look at the Scripture today says, “Stop judging by mere appearance.” Two people can be doing the same thing, but it’s a totally different spiritual concept, a totally different attitude of the heart. He didn’t pray. Chef Ramsay didn’t pray before he ate the meal and thank God for the fine meal, did he?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: I would have prayed and thanked God for the fine meal and been thankful the whole day that God provided that food. So, there’s a difference even in spiritual quality that was going on. That’s the whole point we’re looking at concerning leadership. And when Chef Boyardee measures my leadership by a fine Italian meal, he’s going to commit evil and sin. Go ahead and play the intro, and let’s get started, Jacob.

Intro: Welcome to the Consider podcast, where we examine today’s wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Timothy: Let’s kind of jump right into it. Let’s go to John 21, verses 15-19. Jacob, go ahead and play the audio file of this so people can get a brush stroke of what we’re going to discuss and kind of look at in a little more detail. We’re going to go in with the palette here and look and, oh, this is defined well over here, and this is good. We’re going to savor the Word of God.

Video: When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you truly love me more than these?” “Yes, Lord,” he said, “You know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” Again, Jesus said, “Simon, son of John, do you truly love me?” He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” The third time he said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus had asked him a third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things. You know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep.” I tell you the truth. When you were younger, you dressed yourself and went where you wanted. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go. Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me.” John, chapter 21.

Timothy: There’s a lot there. Any quick thoughts on that, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Prosecutor Simmons, what God is looking for are leaders that love the flock. If you know even a basic part of the story of Peter, what did he wind up doing to Jesus before he was put into a position of leadership, Jacob?

Jacob: He denied him.

Timothy: Denied him three times, betrayed him. Now, if Simmons would have been prosecuting during that time, he would have said, did you ever leave Jesus Christ? Did you ever leave Sound Doctrine Church? In fact, you did that question. We don’t have time to look at it today, but Scripture says that your name will be erased from the book of life for that kind of attack. What you fail to realize is that God goes through and begins to break those whom he is calling to leadership. Peter will have an authority. It’s not the Catholic authority where the Catholic Church is supposedly based upon Peter. This is an authority that comes from Jesus Christ. But before a man ever gets in that position or is put forth in that position, God is going to crush him and to break him and to humble him.

Once again, I’m repeating over and over again. If you see any authority, any boldness, any courage, it is the boldness of Jesus Christ. It is the courage of Jesus Christ. But it comes from a foundation of humility and brokenness. When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, usually you’re eating your full. You’re all comfortable, right? Jesus comes in when we’re that comfortable and we’re all settled back. And I’m sure Peter’s sitting there going, well, I’m sitting here. I’m just going to lay quiet because I don’t know where my standing is. So, Jesus goes directly to him. There’s no, there’s no gameplay. Just like this Bible study. There’s no gameplay. There’s no wordies, you know, around the corner or soft. There’s no flattery going on. He goes, “Simon, son of John, do you truly love me more than these?”

Now, what’s he means by these? He just got through eating a meal. “Do you love me more than the things of this world? “The more than the food he’s striking at? What caused Peter to deny Jesus? Peter was listening too much to his belly, to his flesh. It’s comfort. Remember, he’s before the fire, getting himself warm. So, Jesus is saying, “Do you love me more than the comforts of this world?” The leadership that God had worked at Sound Doctrine church. And that I was doing was way past my comfort in my ease. I’m sure that slander is out there that all of it. But was there anything about my life that showed I was comfortable? Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: It was a constant state of being uncomfortable. Actually, being crucified with Jesus is uncomfortable. Now, Peter does say, “Yes, Lord.” He said, “You know that I love you.” So, what’s Jesus’s command? “Feed my lambs.” We go from earthly food, earthly comfort. We go from chef Ramsey down to give it away and feed my lambs. Again, Jesus said he doesn’t say to Peter, good, I’m glad you say you love me. He just doesn’t pause there. Jesus will keep going until self is wounded. Till self is being crucified to pride is being humbled. And that’s why a lot of people leave the gospel or don’t even show up at church or they belong for a short period of time because Jesus doesn’t just ask the question one more time. He will keep coming to us over and over again until we give up the pride till, we give up the sin. And if we don’t, we’ll either leave or he’ll quit asking. And then you just go your merry way. Or like Judas, you go out to betray. Again, Jesus said, “Simon, son of John, do you truly love me?” Man, those are cutting words. First of all, you have to come in Peter. Does he leave the room and stomp off?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: How dare you ask me? Of course. I love you. You’re just being judgmental or what’s the Greek word, Jacob?

Jacob: I don’t know. for judgmental?

Timothy: Judgy.

Jacob: Oh, judgy. Yeah.

Timothy: You’re being judgy.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: So, he doesn’t storm out, leave the room. He doesn’t leave the church and then start slandering and say, Jesus is just so judgy and he thinks he’s boss and he thinks he’s king. And all the other disciples were laughing at me and all of these things. He doesn’t go do any of that. Does he? Doesn’t go out and lie about Jesus Christ. He takes it. He understands the power of the cross. He knows Jesus Christ is the great shepherd, the overseer of our soul. And he’s willing to take it and take it in. Again, Jesus said, “Simon, son of John, do you truly love me?” He answered, “Yes, Lord. You know that I love you.” You can imagine the frustration. Because he, by this time he knows who Jesus is, right? He knows he’s resurrected. He knows all things. But he’s got a good heart about what he’s saying. He’s not, he’s not being defensive. And again, an evil person would see as being defensive. But Peter is going, “You know, my heart.” And it’s true that Jesus knows his heart. Doesn’t he?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: But you have to go through the discipline. You have to go through the humbling process. How many times have I been told by people? Well, I love God, or I know that he loves me and God’s bringing something new to them or trying to crucify them more to bless them and turn them from their wicked ways. And they’ll go, but God knows I love him. And they’re using it as a defense to keep Jesus away. The third time he said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Now we finally get down to the pain of the cross. What does it say? G or a Peter CC. What does it say Jacob?

Jacob: Peter was hurt.

Timothy: He was hurt. It finally cut. He had denied Jesus three times. And so, three times, Jesus is asking the question. Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time. “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know, all things, you know, that I love you.” And Jesus repeats it again, “Feed my sheep.” Prosecutor Simmons, judge Lori K Smith, all of their five. In fact, Jacob, you may want at this point to play the video of all those that are responsible. Not now, but later on, just kind of tuck it in there. You notice that he says, “Feed my lambs, feed my sheep, take care of my sheep.” And what position would Peter be doing that, Jacob? But what kind of spirit would Peter have?

Jacob: He just got humbled.

Timothy: So, it’s coming from humility, a brokenness that we cannot relate to only in the sense of the Holy Spirit coming to us. We haven’t had Jesus come to us in the flesh, so to speak, and take us all the way to the cross. But it all has to do with the foundation of humility, of feeding, taking care of the sheep, and making sure that they’re blessed in Jesus Christ. And to be sure, Peter did miracles from here on out. He did all kinds of things.

Jacob: Heal people.

Timothy: Heal people. He preached powerfully acts.

Jacob: Drove out demons.

Timothy: Drove out demons.

Jacob: I’m just throwing things out.

Timothy: Oh, yeah. No, he preached the first sermon where, you know, how many were baptized? I think 3,000 were baptized in one day.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Went on to be a powerful preacher. So, there was authority there, but it came from the Holy Spirit, and it came because Peter had been emptied of self. And to emphasize this even some more, you know, Jesus just doesn’t stop right there. You got to love Jesus. You have to worship him. Just when you think you’ve been humbled, and you think you’ve been restored, he goes on. Don’t get out of the prayer closet too fast. Scripture says, “When you sit before the Lord or come before the Lord, don’t be in a hurry to leave.” He may have a few other things to say. We all want to hear Jesus say, yeah, I love you, you’re restored, you’re my child, you belong to me. And we’re sitting there, and then we go, okay, good, good. And we know we’ve sinned, we’ve confessed it. Maybe we’ve kind of played at it, but we’ve confessed it. We feel like, oh, the Lord’s forgiven me. So, you’re kind of sitting there. And you think the quiet time’s over with, and the communication of the Lord has come to an end, you’re ready to leave. And then Jesus comes, if we’re listening, Jesus comes in, so to speak, with the punchline, “I tell you the truth.” Anytime Jesus starts a sentence that way, you better stop what you’re doing and pay attention. I tell you the truth.

How many times does he have to tell us that is an amazing thing. But if all of a sudden, I’m vacuuming the carpet or doing whatever, and all of a sudden, I hear the Holy Spirit say, “I’ll tell you the truth.” Whoa, everything shuts down. This is going to be, don’t argue, don’t come back, soak this in, take it in. Now, we don’t have time to explore today. Peter doesn’t quite do that, but we don’t have time to get to that today. “I tell you the truth. When you were younger, you dressed yourself and went where you wanted.” That’s the most Christian life. That’s what King County prosecutors do. They dress themselves. One of them wears tennis shoes in court. I mean, they get to do these kinds of things. “You went where you wanted, you do what you want to do; But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” Talk about the humility. Number one, the Holy Spirit always leads us where we don’t want to go.

So, when people, Mr. Simmons, come to the church and stay for a while, or I’ve preached to a lot of people. They never came to church, but they understood what the message was. They become anger because what they realize is to become a Christian is to no longer be able to do what you want to do. So, they’re not going to blame themselves. They’re not going to go, oh, no, I just don’t want to do what I want to do. Yeah, I want to do what I want to do, and I don’t want to accept this message. I’m just a selfish creature, and I’d rather go to hell than give up what I want to do. “And someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. And then he said to him, as if it needed to be said, what did he say there, Jacob?

Jacob: “Follow me.”

Timothy: Follow me. On the surface of things, that’s kind of insulting, isn’t it?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: You would think so. Most people would go, well, I know that. I’ve been a Christian for so many years. I was baptized. I asked you in my heart. I prayed the believer’s prayer. I did the rosary. Whatever it is you’re particular for.

Jacob: Got baptized.

Timothy: Got baptized. That’s right.

Jacob: Did all these things.

Timothy: So, Lord, I know that I have to follow you. Why are you telling me that? All defensiveness has to go. If you’re going to hear from Jesus Christ, if you’re going to be blessed, it has to go. All you do is harm yourself. Jesus wants to say things to us, and we don’t listen, and we have to wind up learning the hard way. That’s the bottom line, if we even learn. A lot of people don’t learn, or they’ll drift away, or they no longer want to follow because the cost is too high. But Jesus said, “Follow me.” Clearly, he’s driving home some things in Peter that need to be crucified and taken to the cross.

The question really for all of us today, including myself, is are we really listening to Jesus, or are we interrupting all the time? Or are we being indignant like, yeah, I know. I love you. You know that. And it takes a long time for us to actually get hurt. I’m rather old in the Lord, and to a certain degree, I’ve learned, don’t argue. It’s just not worth it. Not only do I hunger and thirst for righteousness and resent it when my sinful nature comes up and just doesn’t want to listen, but there’s just within my spirit, it’s like, I do not want to grieve the Holy Spirit. What do you have to tell me, Lord, no matter what it is? I know it’s a blessing. If he comes to me and says, you’re the worst vile preacher that ever existed, great, that’s a blessing. If he says, you’re a faithful servant, that’s also a blessing taken in humility. Any comments before we move on to the next scripture, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Video: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.” Isaiah 5:20. Woe to King County prosecutors of Seattle, Washington.

Timothy: Play the intro again, Jacob, and then we’ll get into 1 Corinthians 2, verse 1.

Intro: What’s up? Prosecutor Jason Simmons, Bible Study Time, Part 3. Topic? Leadership without persuasive words. Leadership without eloquence. Leadership without superior wisdom. Leadership that is the opposite of King County Courts of Washington State. The Consider Podcast. Examining today’s wisdom, folly and madness. www.consider.info.

Timothy: Jacob, go ahead and play the file for 1 Corinthians 2, verses 1-8.

Video: 1 Corinthians 2:1-8. “When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I came to you in weakness and fear and with much trembling. My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”

Timothy: Jacob, would you say my preaching is full of eloquence?

Jacob: No, eloquence would be like fancy words.

Timothy: Fancy words, smooth. Would you say, I’m interesting that you paused on that. I did not come with eloquence, Paul says. Would you say that I have superior wisdom about the Greek, the Hebrew, the context, the historical, these entertaining jokes, all kinds of things that would just make it seem alive to people?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Well, I’m not even a trained speaker for that matter. Paul said, “When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaim to you the testimony about God.” I don’t come in with flattery. I don’t come in with nice stories. I mean, humor sometimes gets in there, but it’s not an eloquence kind of thing. I mean, you watch some of these polished people preaching on TV or whatever. They’re very smooth at what they do. I’ll use the word “talent” for like of a better term, but when you preach about Jesus Christ, that’s not what this is about. Does my speaking come across to try and persuade anyone, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Do I come in and go, you need to come to Jesus Christ, you’ll be really blessed, and this over here, and exciting stories over here, and just turn everything over to God. Do you sense I’m trying to persuade people what to do?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Well, Prosecutor Jason Simmons, everything that you do is to persuade. You lie to persuade. You bring in, quote unquote, facts to persuade. You’re trying to persuade the jury. We are completely the opposite. Your leadership is not my leadership, and I detest your leadership just as the Lord does. “I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom, as I proclaim to you the testimony about God.” It’s rough. It’s clear. It’s like the cross. It’s solid. It’s understandable. It is presented in a fashion that you know exactly what you’re hearing, and I’m not trying to evade, to come in as some shadow over here, or to ask a series of questions to confuse you, and then ask one at the end to persuade or manipulate a jury to go, oh, okay, that’s the great gospel. You cheated when you won in that case. You brought in the gospel, and the Gospel’s not presented in the way you did it. You can whine and complain, and every jury’s going to go, I don’t like it, because it is the opposite of the sinful world. You persuaded people to hate Jesus Christ. How hard do you think that is, Jacob?

Jacob: How hard is that to do?

Timothy: Yeah, how hard is it to get people, persuade them to not like Jesus?

Jacob: That’s not hard.

Timothy: Not hard at all.

Jacob: No.

Timothy: So, Prosecutor Simmons, your prosecution was extremely lazy on just a minimal level. All right, 1 Corinthians 2:2, “For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you, except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.” And I do not have time today to explain that, although all these podcasts show you that. Now, 1 Corinthians 2:3, how does Paul say, he came preaching the gospel? “I came to you in weakness and fear.” I came to you in weakness and fear. You’re not going to understand that. Well, to a certain degree, I mean, prosecutors’ kind of like worry about, can I persuade the jury? But that’s a sinful kind of fear. This is a fear that comes from knowing a holy God, and that He holds you responsible for every careless word you say. You do know that, Mr. Simmons, that Jesus Christ said, “Men will be judged for every careless word proclaimed.” Every careless word.

Now, just think about all the prosecutions that you’ve done, and certainly what you did in this particular case, every careless slander, every little slight, every little slur, everything that was construed falsely, you would be judged for on the slightest level. Paul says, “I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling.” Much trembling. Jacob, do you want to be a preacher?

Jacob: No, it’s not like the super top of my list.

Timothy: Not on the super top. You don’t want to walk around in a state of weakness and fear?

Jacob: No, that’s usually not like a perk of a job.

Timothy: You wouldn’t get up in the morning and go, oh, I’m a preacher, and I’m ready for all the trembling and all the fear, and God just come to me more with more judgment, show me more sin, so that when I preach and what I declare really are your words and the way it should be said. You’re not interested in weakness and fear and trembling?

Jacob: No, it doesn’t sound fun.

Timothy: No, and if you find a man agreeing to it, and it’s his sinful nature, guess what? You’re in serious trouble. But anyway, Prosecutor Simmons, this is what leadership is in Jesus Christ. This is the position. Every decision that was made to one degree or another had all kinds of weakness and fear and trembling. No decision was made easily. When you’re in your sinful nature and you want what you want, every decision becomes easy, right?

Jacob: Sure.

Timothy: Yeah, I want this. I want that. I want that. I constantly heard it from the mover of the hate crime. I want this. I want that. There was no fear and trembling about what you’re asking, because you just want what you want. It’s like a spoiled child. 1 Corinthians 2:4, Mr. Simmons, go to it. 1 Corinthians 2, verse 4. This is Paul speaking. “My message,” the whole message itself, not just sections. “My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words.” I wrote Prosecutor Sattisburg at the time and told him I would not flatter him, and I don’t think I have. Have I flattered him at all?

Jacob: No, I don’t think so.

Timothy: Okay, so that’s kind of clear. “My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words.” I’m not a wise man by the standards of this world, and persuasive words. Again, I love those words there. I’m not trying to persuade anybody. I’m presenting the gospel, and if God is able to move on their heart, if he’s able to draw them to him, because remember, Mr. Simmons, nobody comes to Jesus Christ unless God has enabled them. So why would I persuade a bunch of people who don’t really want to be there? Seriously, why would I want to go out and persuade and market and build a church for a bunch of people that don’t want to be there? Jacob?

Jacob: Only if you were, I guess, well, their narrative would be the evil cult leader who wants money and everything comes back to you.

Timothy: Oh, I agree with that. Don’t most churches try to persuade you to come to church?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: I mean, from the church sign out front, all the way down, and the marketing and the flyers and all those things that come out.

Jacob: They’re trying to appeal to a certain type of crowd, because different people are going to be drawn to different things. That’s why there’s different churches.

Timothy: Correct. It all comes. I remember one time sharing with somebody about the gospel and message of the cross. And this guy was in marketing or whatever. And I was actually talking more with his wife. He was sitting there and he turned and said, well, this is not very marketable. So, his wife, how she, how a wife will do is tap you on the side. Like it don’t say those things, but it’s true. The message of the cross, Mr. Simmons, as you well know, because you presented it in to before a jury about an unrelated situation in order to win a cheated conviction, you know all too well that you can, that the message of the cross is not marketable. If it is, it’s going to totally backfire. First Corinthians 2:5, “So that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom.” I do not want the spirit of Jesus does not want the Holy spirit does not want anyone belonging in a church because of a sermon or logic or things reasoned out.

Look, you can, I’ve reasoned with a lot of people why something is sin and it doesn’t lead to them joining the church or falling under conviction or getting the new life because why I’m not trying to logically box them in. So they go, okay, I’ll check the box and ask Jesus Christ, my personal Lord and savior. That’s not the gospel of Jesus Christ. And if it should happen, if that should take place, then their faith is resting on what Jacob, what does the scripture say? Their faith would be resting on?

Jacob: Men’s wisdom.

Timothy: Man’s wisdom, “But on God’s power.” Everybody needs to come in contact with the living God. That’s what I preached, Mr. Simmons. That’s what I demand, Mr. Simmons. And I would refute and argue against and destroy anything that was said or done that will present a gospel message that was based on men’s wisdom. I hope that’s really, really getting clear to King County prosecutors. Don’t say they’ll like it.

First Corinthians 2:6, “We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature.” It’s the immature jury. It’s the immature prosecuting attorneys, the immature soft-spoken judges that do the evil. They don’t want to think, they don’t want to reason. They don’t want to give anything up. They want to enjoy their meal. They want to enjoy their pride and their position and who they are. “We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature.” Those that are waking up, those that are maturing, those that are going on to being adults in this world. Jacob, is there any mystery to the fact of why Satan is using the governor and the state of Washington to keep everybody’s immature little baby Democrats?

Jacob: Is there any secret?

Timothy: Yeah.

Jacob: No, there’s no real secret because Satan’s in control.

Timothy: He doesn’t want anybody growing up. And by the way, I picked on the Democrats. Republicans do the same thing.

Jacob: They do the same thing.

Timothy: They want everybody. Satan wants everybody immature. He doesn’t want to be growing up. They want him throwing fits. He wants everybody to go take selfie on a cliff.

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: I mean, and the bottom line, he come on.

Jacob: The easiest way. That’s even probably easier than like Satan enticing people to commit suicide.

Timothy: Correct. Forget the Oscars and all the, what were the Macy’s.

Jacob: I just get them to go up to a cliff, go, it snaps up. And there you go.

Timothy: In the news, people are going down on spring break in the most criminal worst places and go something bad happened to them. Why do you think, and this is really the one of the terrible aspects of prosecutors. They convince special young women of what the world should be and not what it is. There’s this thought of you can live and dress and be as reckless as you want and go down dark alleys and all that. And we’ll be there to bring about justice. Well, so then this careless attitude gets in, it’s really immature. You’re not allowed to tell your kid, no, don’t grow in the middle of the street or no, don’t go over here or watch out for that. So, either everybody becomes paranoid and everybody gets isolated and then that creates more confusion and then they can’t even identify sexually who they are or they’re out here just doing whatever they’re not mature. And so, we think, oh, I was attacked and this happened and I don’t know, they took advantage of me. Well, duh, you’re teaching these women, this lie of what the world should be and not what it is. Whereas a good parent, somebody being mature is like, it’s a tough world out there. It’s an evil world. There are bad cops everywhere. There are evil prosecutors in every office. There are judges that will do exactly what they want to do to puff themselves up. They will send you to prison. They will care less about the consequences and the evil they have done. Is that not absolutely true?

Jacob: Very true.

Timothy: And so, all of this constant, well, we want to protect society. It’s a sham. It’s a lie, people. When you go into jury duty, they are flat out lying to you. We want to protect everybody. Really? If they wanted to protect everybody, when was the last time a prosecutor was prosecuted?

Jacob: Yeah, exactly.

Timothy: When was the last time police was actually prosecuted? And I mean that, I mean, it wasn’t something in the news that everybody’s all upset about. Well, we’ll be here all day if I start going down that road. All right, Jacob, I better let you read 1 Corinthians 2:6 and I’ll take a breath here a moment.

Jacob: “We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.”

Timothy: Judge Lori K. Smith, who is woman of the year, is coming to nothing. Every King County prosecutor, every city of Enumclaw policeman, every ruler of this age is coming to nothing. You can have all the rewards you want. In first John, it says, “Those are the world, the world listens to them.” Why do you think Judge Laurie Kay Smith received woman of the year award? She’s part of the world. She’s not part of Jesus Christ. Am I receiving preacher of the year awards?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: And of course it would be, to just show how unfair it is again, when was the last time a man got a man of the year award?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: So that shows the violence against the law within King County prosecutors. Anyway, “We do not, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.” King County prosecutor’s leadership is nothing. Godly leadership is everything. One is coming to nothing. One is heading to glory. 1 Corinthians 2:7, Jacob, again I’m going to let you read that because I want people to soak that in that prosecutor. Jason Simmons is not able to hear or understand neither judge Laurie Kay Smith or any of the other people of the gospel can. So, when Simmons put Jesus on trial, that’s what he did. When he put the word of God on trial up there, when he put righteousness on trial up there, he’s talking to, first of all, juries are dumbed down, right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: I mean they pick, to think about that. Juries are the weakest element in the judicial system. And of course, the judges love it that way. The prosecutors love it that way. The police love it that way. I mean, you got people who are starry eyed, like, oh yeah, the police are great. And the prosecutor is protecting us and the whole shebang and the judges up there trying to do what’s right and blah, blah, blah. And so, they’ll just check in the box and what goes on. I’m not telling you they win every case. You can’t win every lottery, but the basic point is true that the weakest element, the dumbest people are selected for jury duty. Correct?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: All right. Then we add on top of that layer, a secret wisdom. Everything on this podcast, everything we’re talking about is a secret wisdom. You’re not going to understand it unless you actually come to Jesus Christ. Even in the explaining of it, how many people are scratching their heads that they’re even listening saying, you got to hate your life. What’s that? Or usually when I say you got to hate your life, they go, well, I do hate life, which is different than hating your life. They don’t get it. “No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.” This wisdom beats your wisdom, Mr. Simmons. All right. 1 Corinthians 2:8. Go ahead and read that Jacob.

Jacob: “None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would have not crucified the Lord of glory.”

Timothy: Prosecutor Simmons, if you’d understood, maybe even tried to understand what was going on, you wouldn’t have done the wicked thing you did. Judge Lori K. Smith would not have allowed it to even enter the courtroom. Again, I repeat it. It’s always amazed me. There was no discussion among prosecutors going up to trial that they were going to put the church on trial. It was all about Malcolm Frazier, right? That’s the focus. The first day of the trial, the first couple of hours of the trial. Well, first of all, they state, we’re not going to call the mover and the shaker of the hate crime to testify. Therefore, we couldn’t cross examine. And she flew off to Texas to hide out until after the trial, even though she was not afraid to tell her story, but that’s a whole other thing. Do you remember that?

Jacob: Yeah. She’s not afraid to tell her story, but I’m moving to Texas. I’m out of here.

Timothy: I’m flying out to Texas until the trial’s over with.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Yeah, right. Okay. Anyway, one lie after another. If you’d have bothered to try and understand, you wouldn’t have done what you did. It was so baseless. So crass and gross. “None of the rulers of this age understood it for, if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” It’s not like Jesus didn’t explain things. It’s not like he didn’t raise the dead and heal people. It wasn’t like his teachings were out in the open, but they just couldn’t grasp it. They couldn’t understand it because they are trapped in their sin. Any comments or anything, Jacob, before we move on to the next section?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: All right, go ahead again and play this section of scripture. And we’ll probably wrap that up with this, but it is a little bit long. Go ahead.

Video: First Corinthians 9: 19-27. “Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews, I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law, I became like one under the law, (though I myself am not under the law, so as to win those under the law). To those not having the law, I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law, but I’m under Christ’s law). So as to win those not having the law to the week, I became weak to win the week; I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means, I might save some. I do all this for the sake of the gospel that I may share in its blessings. Do you not know that in a race, all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.”

Timothy: Jacob, go ahead and read chapter 9, verse 23 there.

Jacob: 23. 1 Corinthians 9:23, “I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.”

Timothy: Your honor, do you see how selfish he is? Everything he does is for himself. He’s only preaching the gospel. He only has this church. He only does this ministry. He only has the Salt Shaker bookstore because why? What’s he trying to do, your honor? What’s it say?

Jacob: “Share in its blessing.”

Timothy: He wants to share in his blessing. He says, I do all this for the sake of the gospel that I may share in the blessing. It’s about Paul. It all comes back to Paul. All the suffering he talks about, all the boasting, everything comes back. The books he writes, he calls them from God. He’s inspired the whole bit. Your honor, we need to deal with this man powerfully. He is selfish. He’s controlling. I need to show the environment because so-and-so down in jail number, cell number 603 stole a pop tart somewhere in the grocery store. And it’s because Paul is over here boasting about that. He’s selfish with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Did I get a prosecutor Simmons out of my system at that moment?

Jacob: But that’s a pretty good representation. Yeah, that was pretty good representation.

Timothy: Was it eloquent?

Jacob: Of the old Simmons.

Timothy: The old Simmons? I don’t, is there a new Simmons?

Jacob: I just say, no, I just say the old Simmons, as in what has occurred the old Simmons.

Timothy: Yeah. Well, when he gets baptized, we’ll truly talk about the old.

Jacob: Oh yeah. I’m not in any way implying that he has changed.

Timothy: You know why Mr. Simmons; you should have stayed being a defense attorney. That, that was certainly a first calling on your heart, but it won’t do any good unless you actually become a of Jesus. Anyway, so an evil mind can twist all this around.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Now, as I said that let’s, let’s go ahead though, and read say verse 26 % 27. And once again, we’ll see the humility and the fear and trembling that goes along with saying, I do this all that I may share in its blessing. Go ahead, Jacob read versus 26 & 27.

Jacob: “Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air.” No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.”

Timothy: When he states that he’s preaching the gospel, for the sake of the gospel, they can share in its blessing. What’s, what’s mixed in there again, Jacob?

Jacob: Suffering.

Timothy: Suffering, fear, and trembling.

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: I mean, he ends with the statement that I don’t want to be disqualified. He’s working out a salvation with friend, trembling. You see the fear that’s associated with this, the humility, the brokenness, all of that’s there. So again, we’re back to, you got chef Ramsey who eats his meal different than I would eat a meal and who we give thanks to in the same way, when he is saying, I want to share in it, it’s not coming from selfishness. It’s not coming from a power trip. He’s not trying to Lord it over them. He has a fear and really, it’s something you wouldn’t understand. It’s called genuine love. He genuinely loves other people. And he genuinely, genuinely loves the gospel from a selfless point in his heart and his spirit and his mind. He’s not grabbing on for anything for himself, which answers another question. 1 Corinthians 9:26. What did he say, Jacob? “Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly.”

This is a little bit of a tough question to answer. Apply that to all the projects or works that Sound Doctrine did. What is there? And you don’t have to have anything because this is a little bit out there as far as trying to explain it cold. Does anything ring the bell with that?

Jacob: Well, all the projects that Sound Doctrine Church, they had a purpose. So there, it wasn’t done just aimlessly. It wasn’t like a, like a shotgun where you just fire into the air and hope you hit something.

Timothy: Right. Remember the accusation is everything comes back to me.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Which meant the Salt Shaker came back to me. Winepress Publishing came back to me. The church came back to me. The tracks came back to me. The books have my name on them. So, I guess they came back to me, right? Everything came back to me, right? Well, I’m not running aimlessly. Jacob, is there anything about my life that like, there’s not an aim and a goal and a direction.

Jacob: Yeah. There’s always a goal. There’s always a direction.

Timothy: In fact, kind of annoying. I mean, what I’m going to do for lunch. I aim for what I’m going to do from that. Naturally, you’re going to see the fruit of that, Sound Doctrine Church just wasn’t hanging around. We weren’t there just content to go. And by content, I mean, we weren’t there just to come to church, praise Jesus, go home quietly associated with all the pastors in town. We were busy people, because why? I am busy. I am not aimlessly following Jesus Christ. I, there is a purpose. There’s a direction. He’s showing what needs to be done. It takes beating my body self-discipline day in and day out, moving forward, getting the perseverance of Jesus Christ, being dead to my own perseverance, my own wisdom, and what I want to do. Therefore, it’s natural. It’s the fruit of that kind of discipline and following Jesus Christ that yes, there were a lot of projects. And yes, I was overseeing those projects. It’s because I am not a lazy Christian that is just aimlessly enjoying Jesus Christ for the food that he can provide. Is that kind of clear?

Jacob: Yeah, that’s clear.

Timothy: “Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air.” You know, I’m after you, right? You know, I’m not just beating the air like, oh, I’m contending for the faith. I see that a lot on the internet.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: I’m contending for the faith. We’re fighting for the, well, how? Specifically, how that’s coming out. How are you actually engaging in confronting the gospel in very specific ways? And there are a lot of people doing that. I’m just giving the example here. This is the character that Jesus Christ is working within me. So, it’s natural to find those parts. And it takes an evil person like detective Grant McCall and King County prosecutors to think this is just some self-centered thing where everything came back to me. First of all, it’s massively stupid. What did I, the Salt Shaker bookstore, exactly how did I benefit from that?

Jacob: You didn’t. I think there was plenty of people that were spreading lies that there was a bunch of money. I mean, that was another thing. You know what I mean? You sell Winepress. You’re getting so most, most evil in the world, how much of it comes back to money. And so, a lot of dudes out there, whether it be the TBN preachers or they do all this stuff with their elegant words and their ministries. Because why at the end of the day, there’s a bunch of money.

Timothy: That’s a good point. In fact, we had the video of somebody can sit on where the guy’s coming in and saying, we’re just collecting a lot of money. So, that’s a good point. Well, just for the record, Salt Shaker bookstore was not making money.

Jacob: No, it was a nonprofit, but in the whole takedown of the church, we know certain individuals that were digging around stealing Winepress documents, trying to find a bunch of money, but there was none.

Timothy: Well, exactly. And then of course, King County prosecutors took care of publishing. That certainly didn’t make any money.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: “I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body.” And by the way, I don’t live that perfectly, but I sure wish that I did and pray that I do. And I continued to go on. “I beat my body and make it my slave.” Want to be a Christian, Mr. Simmons? Want to be a teacher on top of that? I mean, this is a normal Christian life. You’re supposed to be beating your body, making your slave, making it be obedient, not whining, not complaining, not grumbling. All the attention we give to one of the things I look forward to in heaven is you don’t have to take care of yourself. All the attention that goes into it, all the money, all the things we got to do is man, total freedom just to worship the Lord, just to be able to be there. “No, I beat my body and make it my slave”. Interest in being baptized to Mr. Simmons? See, this is not a message that people are attracted to. These are not persuasive words. Can you imagine?

No wonder Paul is saying I didn’t come with persuasive words, because the gospel message itself is offensive. What, did we advertise in Enumclaw? Like, yeah, beat your body, make it your slave. Come to our church on Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon. Of course not. It’s not even marketable. People have to see it. They have to. Well, that’s why Satan works really hard to keep people from talking to me or ever coming to church. Once again, “I myself may not be disqualified.” I’m not some happy Baptist that thinks he’s saved and always saved. “I am working out my salvation with fear and trembling.” So, on top of all of this, on top of being a preacher, a teacher, a disciple, counseling people, confronting those who oppose the gospel, the persecution, the prosecutions, all those things, plus the daily life of just having faith in Jesus Christ, I become a slave to everybody. Tell me, Mr. Simmons, how do you become a slave to everybody? What’s that mean? You wanted to know how leadership worked. You posed all the questions, right?

So, you tell me. You clearly have superior wisdom or you would not have brought it up in a court of law to soft-spoken Judge Lori K. Smith, would you? How then do you make yourself a slave to everyone, a slave to everyone? Tell me how it’s done. I can tell you how I’ve done it, but you tell me how you’ve done it. “To the Jews, I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.” What people don’t realize is how much energy and prayer and time and effort it takes to be a slave to everyone. If I go into somebody’s house that’s lower income and I make myself a slave to them, I’m not asking them to conform to me. I had to figure out how do I make myself a slave to them. If a millionaire, and that’s not too much these days, a multimillionaire invites me into his house, I have to become rich as if one is rich. That doesn’t mean I get a rich bank account. That means I have to become part of their world and who they are to relate to them. You often hear stories about missionaries. They’ll go over into a particular land or country and they try and force the natives to be like them. There’s not this first becoming like them and then teaching the gospel in that context.

What I would like Simmons and prosecutors to see, just how much energy and wisdom is required to live this. These aren’t just idle words. You’ve got to figure out, well, how do I become a Jew under the law without being under the law? Figure that out. Tell me about that. Or to those not having the law, I became like one not having the law. Okay, so how do you go from living under the law, though you’re not under the law, to becoming somebody who’s not under the law and living as though you’re not under the law? “To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law, but I’m under Christ’s law).” How does that work, Simmons? How would the Holy Spirit lead that to be done? How much self has to be crucified, suffering against sin, to be that dead enough to your personality and who you are and who you think you are and who you want to be to become a slave to somebody in the room? Most people want to be who they think they want to be. Does that make sense? Discover who yourself is. Why do you think Satan advertises on television everywhere? Be whichever you’re meant to be. I can’t even think of them anymore, but it’s a constant thing.

In order to become a slave to all men, you have to be dead to self. You have to literally hate your own life. You have to pick up your cross. You have to deny yourself. You go into a Jewish home and the food is different than you go into a Gentile home. You can’t or you shouldn’t be in there going, well, I don’t like this food and I won’t eat this food over here. How do you become a slave to all these people? Have I always succeeded in this? I’ll admit I have not. And I allow God to crucify me, to change me so that I might become a slave to everyone. Anything before I kind of wrap it up here, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: All right. 1 Corinthians 9:22. “To the weak I became weak.” I’ve already asked a series of questions how you do all these other things. Will you tell me, how do you become weak when you’re strong in the Lord? Isn’t everything about the world anyway, be strong, be powerful, be this superhuman being, go for the goal, go for whatever. Do you know any of the lingo’s? I’m trying to think of them now.

Jacob: Not necessarily.

Timothy: It’s just everywhere, right? Well, how do you make yourself weak to win the week? I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means, I might save some. Prosecutor Simmons is going to go bananas. He thinks he’s the savior of everyone. Paul is doing all these things. He’s manipulating, he’s becoming a Jew and he’s becoming free over here, and he’s doing this over here, and he’s associating with these people over here and he’s making himself weaker also that he thinks he can win them. Isn’t that what an evil person would think?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: And we know that’s not what Paul is thinking. We know that’s not where it’s coming from. And it’s genuine, genuine, sincere love. In other words, I simply make myself a slave to everyone. I don’t demand they conform to me or whatever I think they should be. I serve them and love them. I do all of this for the sake of the gospel, not for any other reason. Paul didn’t have a big congregation. I know that might be shocking to you. A lot of the churches he had problems with. I know that must be a shocker too. There must be something wrong somewhere. Paul was deserted twice where everybody left him. That must be also to prosecutor Simmons. That’s a sure sign. Something’s wrong somewhere, right? “I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessing.” Well, we’ve already covered the non-selfish attitude of what he’s trying to say here. Bottom line is, pick up your cross and follow Jesus Christ. Take us out of here, Jacob.

Disclaimer: Nothing on the consider podcast should be considered legal or life advice. Each is admonished to seek a holy God and obey by picking up a cross to follow Jesus. The consider podcast www.consider.info.

Washington State Guilty Parties

Without exaggeration King County Courts have zero intrest in evidence, investigations or the truth. Remember this well when showing up for jury duty. Fact: Prosecutors and Judges will use corrupt Police to help script out accusations, not look for evidence, witness tamper and, of course, lie.

While not forgetting those who spread slander, prosecutor Jason Simmons and the cut-throat gang caused many to stumble, sin or fall from the faith. Fear for them because they fear not. See Millstone.

The Lord is slow to anger and great in power; the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet. Nahum 1:3

Guilty Parties
Washington State
Legal Corruption
Listen to The Consider Podcast or examine overwhelming evidence on www.consider.info, or www.enumclaw.com

The following is basic information and a short list of the guilty parties involved.

The Washington State court system and its associated legal entities are currently engaged in significant abuses of rights. Right rape is now the normal operating procedure in Washington State.

The Washington State Supreme Court has systematically undermined the rights of those accused of crimes, leading to rampant corruption among prosecutors and law enforcement. One example out of many of the court’s devaluation of individual rights is exemplified by its ruling allowing dogs in the courtroom in order to manipulate juries in favor of the State.

The Supreme Court of Washington State by appealing to emotions rather than facts of a case threw open the door for police and prosecutors to promote wide-spread and deep seated corruptions. City of Enumclaw Police and King County Prosecutors seized upon this lawlessness in the name of the law to engage in a hate crime of false accusations.

As one prosecutor in Washington State publicly stated during jury selection, the process for the prosecution and police resembles a "dog and pony show." Thus it is no shock to witness the degrading lawlessness, ignoring of facts and right rape of others within the legal system.

In the case of King County Superior Court, State of Washington, Plaintiff vs. Malcolm Fraser, Defendant, Case No. 12-1-01886-0 Knt, it’s important to clarify that the true plaintiff is, in fact, the King County Superior Court, State of Washington, against Sound Doctrine Church or Timothy Williams who was never charged with a crime in Enumclaw, Washington.

Washington State prosecutors have employed abusive legal strategies to pursue an unfounded charge designed to eliminate Timothy Williams or Sound Doctrine Church from Enumclaw. The defendant, Malcolm Fraser, has been exploited by King County prosecutors and Enumclaw police to indirectly proxy-prosecute Timothy Williams.

Judge Beth M. Andrus exhibited favoritism towards Prosecutor Rich Anderson, even after reprimanding him for making inappropriate, prejudicial, and offensive comments. She downplayed the wrongful actions of City of Enumclaw Detective Grant McCall, contributing to a narrative intended to discredit the church and its activities in Enumclaw, ultimately leading to the collapse of a business, church, and bookstore while forcing the church to leave the community. Despite being a pastor’s daughter, Ms. Beth M. Andrus demonstrated a shocking lack of Christian values or even legal common sense.

Judge Lori K. Smith worked with King County prosecutors to hinder and deny the defendant’s ability to present a defense. She turned the criminal proceedings into a chaotic "family court" atmosphere that enabled false accusations to undermine justice. Judge Lori K. Smith, allegedly influenced by being named "Woman of the Year," distorted justice to guarantee a guilty verdict against a man. In short, Judge Lori K. Smith was bribed and, seeking to maintain her social standing abused the rights of the accused.

Prosecutor Dan Satterberg assigned five prosecutors specifically to target the church. Prosecutor Leesa Manion who was supported by Satterberg, takes inappropriate pride in being the first Korean woman to hold a position in the prosecutor’s office. Ms. Manion actively endorses the corrupt practices initiated by Satterberg, including reinstating Prosecutor Rich Anderson.

Detective Grant McCall of the City of Enumclaw was implicated in orchestrating a fabricated hate crime. He deleted evidence and fabricated accusations while refusing to investigate the claims of hatred and the actual crime as charged against Mr. Fraser. Detective Grant McCall and King County Prosecutors knew that a proper inquiry and investigation would expose the falsehoods. King County prosecutors obstructed and suppressed any effort to initiate a proper investigation.

The prosecutor team included Prosecutors Mark Larson, Lisa Johnson, Nicole Weston, Rich Anderson, and Jason Simmons.

This is not an exhaustive list of those who have facilitated, protected, and perpetuated self-serving corruption within the Washington State court system.

In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. Acts 17:30

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It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household! (Matthew 10:25)

No, Sound Doctrine Church was not a cult; in fact, it was the very antithesis of one. The church bore the fruit of holiness and faith, demonstrated through the love of Jesus until corrupt authorities undermined it.

The opposition, persecution, and prosecution by anti-Christian prosecutors Jason Simmons and Judge Lori K. Smith of Washington State serve as clear evidence of the positive impact of Jesus that was present in Sound Doctrine Church.

1 Thessalonians 2:15
Who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men.

 

City of Enumclaw Detective Grant McCall deleted evidence, scripted out accusations, and refused to investigate the actual crime because he was engaged in a hate-crime.

Prosecutor Jason Simmons and the gang of Prosecutors used the accused crime to take down a righteous Christian Church.

The "trial" by Judge Lori K. Smith, who corrupted every means against the defense lasted 28 days. Normally such trial last from 3 to 5 working days.

28 days of relentless the church is bad rather than focusing in on the accusations, which King County Prosecutors admitted they had no evidence for.

Disclaimer

Disclaimer

The Consider Podcast aims to convey opinions rooted in God’s holiness. Any discussions about justice or injustice should not be construed as legal advice or a call for action. There is no political agenda present. We do not provide individual moral guidance. Ultimately, each person is accountable to God and others for their actions or lack thereof. The sole focus of The Consider Podcast is the importance of surrendering to a life of repentance in accordance with the full gospel.

The Consider Podcast focuses on the importance of living a life of repentance in alignment with the complete gospel. This aligns with 1 Corinthians 2:2, which states, "For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified."

Nothing but the whole gospel is preached and lived on The Consider Podcast.

Acts 5:20
"Go, stand in the temple courts," he said, "and tell the people the whole message of this new life."

Articulated Perspectives

The opinions shared are those of the speakers, Timothy and Jacob, stemming from a self-critical stance. They reject sin to allow the righteous truths of God to be conveyed through His Spirit of Truth.

We sincerely regret any errors, misunderstandings, or lapses in knowledge. As stated in Proverbs 18:15: "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

The Consider Podcast is not associated with any group organization or church. This is not out of choice but because the whole gospel is preached and lived others do not desire to fellowship in the Light.

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