Haircut on Mt. Rainier

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• Climbing Mount Rainier can be dangerous, as it is a high, glaciated peak that is prone to extreme weather conditions. The mountain has claimed the lives of several climbers over the years, and it is important for those attempting to climb it to be well-prepared and equipped.

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[su_quote style=”sharp”]The mountains melt like wax before the Lord , before the Lord of all the earth. (Psalm 97:5)[/su_quote]

Mt. Rainier is a large, active stratovolcano located in the state of Washington in the United States. It is the highest mountain in the state and the highest volcano in the Cascade Range. The mountain is known for its challenging climbing routes, and there have been numerous deaths on Mt. Rainier as a result of climbing accidents and other causes. Here is a list of some of the deaths that have occurred on Mt. Rainier:

August 14, 1890: Six people died in a rockfall accident while climbing the mountain.

June 6, 1910: Four people died in a fall while attempting to climb the mountain.

June 6, 1922: Seven people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

August 6, 1923: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 30, 1925: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

July 22, 1934: Six people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 21, 1946: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 7, 1947: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 25, 1950: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

August 1, 1950: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

August 6, 1950: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 23, 1951: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

June 30, 1951: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

July 7, 1951: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

July 14, 1951: Four people died in a fall while climbing the mountain.

This is just a small sampling of the deaths that have occurred on Mt. Rainier. It is important to note that climbing the mountain can be extremely dangerous, and it is essential that climbers are properly trained and equipped before attempting to climb it.

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Ecclesiastes 2:12
Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom, and also madness and folly.

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Mount Rainier

The mountain is located about 50 miles southeast of Seattle and is a popular destination for outdoor enthusiasts, with activities such as hiking, climbing, and skiing.

The mountain is part of the Mount Rainier National Park, which was established in 1899. The park covers an area of 235,625 acres and is known for its beautiful landscapes and diverse plant and animal life. The mountain itself is composed of four major glaciers, which have shaped the landscape over time.

Mount Rainier is an active volcano and has erupted several times in its history. The most recent eruption occurred about 1,000 years ago, but the mountain is still considered potentially active and could erupt again in the future. However, the likelihood of an eruption is low and it is not expected to pose a significant threat to the surrounding area.

One of the most popular activities at Mount Rainier is climbing to the summit. The mountain is a challenging climb, with an elevation of 14,411 feet. The summit can be reached via several different routes, ranging in difficulty from moderate to challenging. Most climbers require several days to complete the ascent, as they need to acclimate to the high altitude and extreme weather conditions.

In addition to climbing, there are many other recreational activities available at Mount Rainier. The park has over 260 miles of trails, which offer opportunities for hiking, backpacking, and horseback riding. The mountain is also a popular destination for skiing and snowboarding, with several ski resorts located in the park.

Overall, Mount Rainier is a beautiful and awe-inspiring destination. It is a must-visit location for anyone interested in experiencing the beauty of the natural world.

Mount Rainier National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Ascending to 14,410 feet above sea level, Mount Rainier stands as an icon in the Washington landscape. An active volcano, Mount Rainier is the most glaciated peak in the contiguous U.S.A., spawning five major rivers. Subalpine wildflower meadows ring the icy volcano while ancient forest cloaks Mount Rainier’s lower slopes.

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Let’s consider Jacob’s trek

Welcome to the Consider Podcast where we turn our minds to consider wisdom madness and folly join the hosts Timothy and Jacob on a quest to have God enlighten the mind according to verse 25 of Ecclesiastes chapter 7. So I turned my mind to understand, to investigate, and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things and to understand the stupidity wickedness, and the madness of folly (Ecclesiastes 7:25) The Consider Podcast: Examining Today’s Events and Tomorrow’s Realities at www.consider.info

Timothy: Well today we are going to discuss Jacobs Trek. He survived, he’s back we’re gonna talk about that, he climbed Mountain Rainier but he did a little event at the top of mountain rainier. We will discuss that here in a moment. Mount Rainier is about 90 miles from well really sinful unrepentant Seattle where if you are a pastor there and you’re reading scripture in public they will take you into protective custody just to protect you now I don’t know where you heard the term ‘protective custody’ but prosecutors there have decided that you’re not allowed to read scripture in public if it offends other people standing around but let’s press onto some little more exciting things today. Jacob without giving his exact age is at kind of the end of his youth and he went on a nice track. In Ecclesiastes eleven, verse nine. God says, “be happy young man while you are young, and let your heart give you joy in the days of your youth. Follow the ways of your heart and whatever your eye sees. But know that for all these things, God will bring you to judgment.” I’m obviously an old man, and I look back on the days of my youth, and I’m so thankful that I saw God and use that energy and strength because by the time you’re my age, strength begins to wane a little bit and the amount of love and devotion you can express outwardly gets a little more limited because your body just is giving away. I’m reminded of this mountain, near climb that you took Jacob, of Moses, who was always climbing mountains. In fact, when he was time for him to die, God didn’t even make it easy. He had him climb up the mountain for that to happen, fortunately for Moses, he was doing a lot of walking before he got there. So Jacob climbed Mount Rainier. And what is it that you did up there, Jacob, and tell us a little bit about the events and what you learned in the Lord and things like that.

Jacob: So the whole purpose was to go up there and do a haircut. That was the goal. Get to the Verity top and do a haircut. You know, I’ve thought multiple times recently that for sure, if I was alive, when Jesus was alive, he would most definitely turn to me. And, you know, when he turns to disciples, and he at one point, you know, he’s like, how dull are you? And then he also, you know, he goes, how long am I going to put up with you? Right? These are the actual disciples. And the reason I say that is because any of the, the lessons or the scriptures that I, you know, have thought about on this climb is nothing really new, right? Like, these are things that you have preached for years. These are things that I have read for years, and I can’t tell you why, but I don’t know, they seem more alive. They seem to have like more kind of context. Some of these things seem to be more real after you climb up a mountain.

Timothy: Yeah. Which saying is, if you live Christianity, the word becomes alive and the more we do that, the more God can make it alive.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: I’ve often thought of our God likes walking.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: He created us to do that. Jesus came and he traveled around walking. He didn’t do it in chariots or people carrying him around. The only time he actually wrote anything that’s recorded is when he wrote the donkey before it’s gonna be crucified. So walking allows you to think, to observe, to stop, to contemplate, allows God to visit. But I’m also impressed with the humility of God who made the universe and can be anywhere instantaneously. And really is everywhere instantaneously. Well, helping himself enough to just take the time to walk, to talk to the disciples. By walking and teaching, we miss an awful lot because we’re too busy being distracted with our phones. We’re too busy distracted with entertainment and Satan loves to get us distracted. But it’s in that walking that discussion and contemplation happens. We just don’t do it enough. Why don’t you play the video showing the actual haircut and then we can start talking about the trek and what went on.

I heard one guy said he saw it done once. Okay, but I’ll beat it because it was ever seen. They look ugly, but it’s beautiful up here.

Timothy: So you actually did two haircuts.

Jacob: Yeah, so I did two haircuts.

Timothy: You know, those are gorgeous, just absolutely gorgeous pictures.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: I’m amazed. I used to do a lot of hiking before I came to the Lord and became a disciple of Jesus in fact, before all, they had all the fancy equipment. I had serious expense equipment.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: Surrendered that all and gave it up. Never went back to it. Too busy with other things. So I can appreciate and go ahead and show some of those pictures, because again, they are absolutely gorgeous. This is different kind of mountain. This mountain is actually treacherous. I never did this kind of hiking.

Timothy: I was always more controlled, but this is some beautiful stuff.

Jacob: So do you want me to kind of just, I’ll just kind of tell you little story, I guess, of the trek up, because we can go, you know, with the pictures here.

Timothy: Why don’t you tell the whole story from even starting and going up? I think you went to a base camp by yourself for an evening before you started.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: So this is a serious climb. It is. It’s amazing. It would take somebody young or in really good shape to give a haircut once they got to the top.

Jacob: Yeah. Oh yeah. There was no guarantees I was getting to get to the top. I even thought, you know, it was like a 50, 50, right? So like this shot. Oh. And you can see, so the clouds that are up on top, that pretty much means the weather is absolutely horrible up there.

Timothy: Okay

Jacob: And it was so talking to people. So I’m going up from the paradise parking lot this is, you know, the,

Timothy: I don’t mean, interrupt you, but is, is the wind blowing over that?
Is that what’s making it rough? Or is that just everything, whether rain, snow, whatever?

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: Predictable.

Jacob: They say that you can, they have these forecasts that they put out because it’s a constant, like, what’s the weather gonna be? But like, because it’s the real deal up there, like it’s important, but they say,

Timothy: Yeah

Jacob: They’ll say, the mountain makes its own weather. And so that day, like, I actually met a guy who I know on the way up, he was coming down with the group, and he said, yeah, it was like 50 mile per hour winds.

Timothy: Wow

Jacob: Then there was some rain, so not snow. And then, so that turns into white out conditions.

Timothy: This is actually a pretty hazardous climb.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: That’s why I get you hired a professional guide kind of thing.

Jacob: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I’m not going up there just

Timothy: And, you know, God likes walking, and he likes to talk a lot about mountains. Yeah. So there’s a lot to the store. I don’t want to keep interruption going.

Jacob: No Yeah. So this is just a view on the way up, going to camp mirror. Camp mirror is the, the spot where I was going to stay the night. Well, actually spent two nights.

Timothy: okay

Jacob: And so as we’re trekking up to mirror, just another cool shot. But, and eventually the clouds will clear out later on. And I actually had really good weather going up. This is pretty much as soon as I hit what they called the, the mere snow field. So it changes from like kind of nice path to just an arduous track.

Timothy: Who is that in the picture in front?

Jacob: Just some random guy.

Timothy: And again, this is a serious mountain climb. You were just telling me somebody died yesterday or

Jacob: Yeah, like two days ago.

Oh, yeah, two days ago, somebody, somebody died. And ultimately they well, they did something foolish, right? They weren’t upright.

Timothy: Sure

Jacob: That’s the story I heard is they weren’t properly roped up and, and it cost them.

Timothy: And we’ll get into all that.

Jacob: Yeah. But you know, it was a right about here. Like you’re kind of starting out, you’re like, haha, you know, there’s an actual kind of path and you know,

Timothy: It goes up and down little deception. The beginning of the Christian life.

Jacob: Yeah, pretty much. Well, because in a lot a lot of people will reach pebble Creek. And then that’s when you pretty much hit the mirror snow field, snow field. And there’s a lot of people who will either stop at that point, right. Or a lot of them will be like, Oh, let’s keep going. Like they think they’re going to get to camp mirror, a lot of people think, or head to camp mirror, they hit pebble Creek. That’s when like the kind of the more or less, it’s not dangerous, is not dangerous at all right now. But sort of the climbing, the hard part starts.

Timothy: I hear you. That reminds me when Moses bring the people out of Egypt. If you read the story, God’s answering miracles back to back. I mean, it’s, it’s very intense, very quick, very fast. And then as I start walking in the desert, and God begins to test them, the miracles get further apart, and it becomes more difficult again. We’ve got these mountains, we’ve got walking. There’s a lot of parallels here to how God leads the Christian life.

Jacob: And it’s, at 1st, it’s fun, right? Like, you’re starting this climb,

Timothy: Oh yeah

Jacob: And you’re like, Oh, who that? La la la And I don’t know about here’s when it starts to what I call a slog. It starts to just become like, Oh, okay, here we go.

Timothy: You’re better shape than me this wow. Driving up there and getting out, visiting the visitor Centers would probably my slog. But go ahead.

Jacob: Well, I also, I don’t even quite know how I like, I uber packed for this thing. I packed too much food. I packed, I don’t my pack was heavy. So we weighed before I left, and I had a 49 pound pack. And the average pack is like 30 to 35.

Timothy: Sure

Jacob: So I don’t even quite know what happened, but I had even the guy I texted him, I’m like, yeah, I got a 49 pound pack. And he’s like, he goes, the guide who I was going with, he goes, Yikes. He’s like, yeah, take it slow.

Timothy: Yeah. And you tend to, it doesn’t sound like much, but it’s huge. And I remember my backpacking days and young same thing, way over pack.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: People do the Christian life, they go to evangelize, and we take our commentaries, we take this, we take that, we take this and that anything but really, but the Holy spirit, I think part of the mountain climb is for God trying to get us to shed all this other stuff so that we’re totally dependent on him.

Jacob: And about, I’d say, I don’t know where, but as you’re trekking along, and you can kind of see how like, there’s just this little path, right? And it really, I don’t know why. I mean, I would sit there and have flashes of like, just even the physicality, the physical side of Jesus carrying his cross. It was like, wow, this pack is getting heavier and heavier and heavier as you’re trekking up and, and just even the concept we’ve discussed many times, right? But, you know, Luke 9:23, Jesus turns to them, and he says, and he said to them, all whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves. Take up their cross daily and follow me. And just even just the direct connection of this physical weight that’s on my back, and you’re carrying this pack, and how every day we should be carrying our cross.

Timothy: And you bring up another point, you keep going. You’re not getting stronger and stronger as you go. You’re getting weaker and weaker as you go and you become more and more dependent upon God, at least that’s the whole, a lot of people just turned back.

Jacob: Yes, a lot of people just turned back. And I think it really, you know, I wanted to go on this climb. I wanted to do this. And there is a huge amount of suffering involved, you know, you can, there’s some people that I guess are, are just almost like, not affected by it, right? Or maybe phenomenal shape, but it’s a suffering. There’s nobody, you know, who’s it’s like, Oh, this is so easier, you know, and, you know, they just fly up the mountain, unless you’re, these guys were in uber shape.

Timothy: But those that are mature in the Lord, they can take suffering much better than those who begin and those who persevered. I know your guide was, it’s just a walk for him. I’m sure there’s some suffering involved, but he’s used to it. He knows what he’s doing. The fair angle, there’s so much learning from God get rid of fears and sins and, you know, extra weight, whatever that might be, endurance, perseverance. But once you’ve attained those, then walking up a mountain isn’t that difficult. Moses was able to climb the mountain and I don’t know how old he was. He was, I want to say 100,

Jacob: 100 plus, I think. Yeah, yeah. You bring up an interesting point. You know, just like me, who I over packed, so I have this heavy pack. And then, you know, I’m also reminded of the scripture where Jesus talks about like, his, his yoke is easy, his burden is light and even like in the Christian life, when people especially like, if you hold on to sins, right? And you’re like, I can either, you think I can do this, or you’re just blindly going to trudge forward, and you’re just carrying all this weight that you should have confessed, got rid of, ditched, and you’re just going to trudge along, and it makes the journey a lot harder.

Timothy: You bring up a good point. You lightened your pack. So Jesus’s burden is light, but that doesn’t mean the walk is not requiring endurance. The air can get a little thin. You can be on your own. You’re gonna need to watch the guide more carefully. You’re getting into more dangerous territory, but it would be those who continue to carry the heavy burden of sin and self, then they’re not going to be able to do this climb. If you were trying to bring up all the gears and gizmo by yourself, you wouldn’t have made it.

Jacob: Oh, yeah. So this is, we’re going up to mirror. The next shot is, I’m at the top. I’m at camp mirror, and you’re looking down.

Timothy: Wow. Again, those are mountains I never got close to kind of climbing. That is beautiful, beautiful stuff.

Jacob: Yeah, it is cool when this Oh yeah, actually, this is actually the next day I got up there. It was like windy. The conditions were miserable. I pretty much just went to sleep.

Timothy: Oh yeah

Jacob: So this is actually the next morning. But yeah, you look out, it’s cool when you got that like cloud layer. So everybody down below right is, it’s all stocked in but up top it’s clear you’re up above the clouds.

Timothy: What, do you know what the mountain is in the far left hand corner there?

Jacob: Yes, the far left is Mount Adams.

Timothy okay

Jacob: If you go to the right, you can barely see it. That one is Mount Hood.

Timothy: okay

Jacob: And then this one is Mount St. Helens, the one that’s shorter because it blew up.

Timothy: Okay. Oh, there, right in the I see you’re blowing it up.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: Wow. Again, I’ll probably say way too much, but God does good work.

Jacob: Yes, he does. So there’s multiple stages where I dropped weight. So at camp mirror, I hiked up all this stuff. And then I met the guide up there. The guide and his buddy. So we meet up at camp mirror and he actually goes through my bag. He goes through everything.He’s like, what, what do you have? In fact

Timothy: man, there is so much, keep talking, just talk over me man because there’s so much that

Jacob: Well we were supposed to do a, technically a gear check, I don’t know, before and just schedulize, he was actually still in Seattle. So yeah, he physically did drive from Seattle out to paradise and move up. But yeah, so no, he was like, what do you have? And we went through everything and it was literally like, OK, take this, don’t take this, take this, don’t take this. And that was stage one of lighting the pack, because the higher you go, the less oxygen there is. I’m already huff and puffin. I can just sit there and I’m just kind of like a reminder.

Timothy: Jesus comes this in quiet times, this has to go, this has to go. You can’t take this. Can’t have just a maturing process. The more you climb closer to God, unless you’re going to be able to bring with you. I mean, you begin with Hebrews, where it says, throw off every sin that’s so easily entangled. That’s certainly in the beginning, as a Christian, you’re just throwing off everything. I mean, I gave away TVs, got rid of backpack equipment, started throwing and there was tons more that was just to get started.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Eventually the Holy spirit, or your guide comes along says, this goes to this goes to quite interesting.

Jacob: So this is looking down from camp mirror. So we still have a very arduous climb up. Camp mirror is right about 10,000 ft.

Timothy: I’m just tired looking at it.

Jacob: Yeah, there’s like a little little guys. So this is camp mirror looking up, and you can see the little path right there

Timothy: okay

Jacob: And the little, little windy path that goes all the way up.

Timothy: Wow

Jacob: So at this point, there’s a lot of day use. A lot of people go to camp mirror. You know, it’s not dangerous. I mean, you know, I mean, you know,

Timothy: I understand.

Jacob: You’re not gonna die. Okay, from here is when we rope up. And so you’re physically tied to the guy. I was in the middle, the guide guy was in the front. He sets the pace, and then there’s a guy behind me, and this was the 1st real, you know, this is when it gets real, you rope up. We went over some basic techniques of what we’re going to do. And this is only like a 45 minute trek. We’re going to go up the hill, and we’re going to go to the in grim flats, they call it.

Timothy: You mentioned this wasn’t too dangerous walking up. These are the people that would be taking selfies that would fall off the Cliff. Just folly would take them down.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: And let’s keep pressing on.

Jacob: So we lighten the pack. We’re going to head up to the Ingram flats. And this was the time, I think I had the most doubt whether I was going to make it, because I also just don’t do as well. I think when the sun’s beaten on you this like 2 30. This is the hottest part of the day. At this point the weather has cleared out. There’s no more clouds, there is no wind. So then as I’m trudging up this hill, I’m just sweating, right? You’re just like dripping sweat. And at that point it’s kind of like, Oh boy, will I make it up? Because this is getting really hard.

Timothy: Now I’m going to ask you a question. Just certainly you would be honest anyway, but having the guide and somebody else with you would help keep you from the grumbling and the whining to want to give up. Am I correct?

Jacob: Oh, yeah, there’s, I already went into it. Oh, because the guy even told me, actually, he told me this at the flats, but he certainly, you can’t be all super prideful and egotistic. He told me, you know, if there’s, at any point, he said, if there’s, at any point you feel like, whoa, I’m not going to be able to get down or I can’t do this. He’s like, you have to tell me. And the guide is there certainly to set the pace. A good guide is going to, there’s a certain amount of going to kind of push you. And then of course, obviously, you know, he’s there to protect you. He’s there to, you know, to ensure that the route.

Timothy: But what if you don’t want to follow a man? What? What if you don’t want to, you know, be taken in by a man and you just, you just want to hear from God. Couldn’t you just got rid of the guides and just you and God prayed and pressed on?

Jacob: Yeah, if you want to die.

Timothy: That’s what I thought.

Jacob: Exactly. Well, and the other, the other importance of the guy being in the front, right? Is simply that he sets the pace because he knows. So there’s certain spots, for instance, even along, going up to the top. So this stuff on the snow, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy. And then when you get up here, or, you know, it’s a track,

Timothy: No, I’m given.

Jacob: So then, but it is not that hard but then, like when you get to this rock area, anytime there’s rocks, it’s more serious. It could be rock fall on you. You have to be careful that you don’t push a lot of rock if there’s another group behind you. So the guide will set the pace. There’s times when it’s not as bad, and then there’s times when he says, OK, we need to move through this section. There’s no stopping for the safety of us.
You push forward, and there is no you don’t get to whine, right? And he’ll kind of prep you. He’ll be like, okay, this next stretch, there’s no breaks. There’s no stopping you move, because you do what he says.

Timothy: So you mean a bunch of legalistic rules.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: As you’re walking along the dynamics are the environment is changing. Rocks could fall, storms could come you. You have to be live in the situation. So a bunch of legalistic rules, or even turning Jesus into a principle, is not going to cut it. You have to actually follow your guide, listen to the voice Holy spirit, and walk and go where he tells you to go, without a bunch of questions. And why? Yeah, you know, one good thing about this is, I’m sure as you’re getting worn out, there isn’t much energy for whining, grumbling, complaining, and go, well, why this? And why are we going over here? And what’s this mean over here? It’s like, why don’t see rocks following? You’re seriously moving forward. Those are the kind of workers God is looking for. They’re too busy working to do all the whining and all the discernment and all the nonsense. They’re just listening to God and moving forward. Sorry, I kind of sidetracked that.

Jacob: No, you’re absolutely right. So even when you’re climbing, like he, he gives you a list of things you’re supposed to be doing, you’re constantly doing. So you’re constantly watching your footwork.

Timothy: So be the ways of God

Jacob: Yeah, the ways of apps. There’s, there’s, there’s, there’s, yeah, there’s, there’s rules and the environment’s constantly changing footwork, proper distance for the pace, constantly putting your back straight, proper breathing, there’s the list of things. So you, yeah, you don’t really, you don’t even have time for your mind to wander if you’re actually doing what you’re supposed to do. And by the way, a lot of people don’t do what they’re supposed to do. They don’t listen to the guide. And those are usually the people that don’t make it.

Timothy: You know, I want to, I could savor that. I need to go on a walk with that one. Keep going.

Jacob: And so, yeah, at this point. So this is the real deal. You climb up, you go up above these rocks.

Timothy: Did you go up between the the Gray section there?

Jacob: Yeah, right here. So you see this little path, you cross over, then you hit the snow again, then you head right up through these rocks.

Timothy: Oh, I see the path there okay.

Jacob: Right up through these rocks and there’s, half the time there’s not even a path. Half the time when the snow melts out like this on the rocks, they just have little flags. You’re just looking for these little flags.

Timothy: Little signs from the Lord, kind of what’s market trail.

Jacob: Yeah, so we head up from mirror, and this is at our camp. This is our little tent right here on the left, and there’s other people up there.

Timothy: Which tent is okay, you’re in the W tent.

Jacob: The left, the orange one.

Timothy: Orange one

Jacob: That’s our tent.

Timothy: It looks like you’re close to a Cliff. Thing. I was looking at this earlier before we started the podcast, and that even looks kind of treacherous. You’re not going to be just out, correct me if I’m wrong, but you don’t just out walking around sighting, correct?

Jacob: No, you don’t walk around. In fact, when you get up there, it’s like, Oh, you kind of establish like, where do we go to the bathroom? And, and he’s like, Oh, yeah, just kind of right over there and he says, don’t go too far. I mean, you’re

Timothy: You’re not on vacation mode. Not a little bit of there’s no self indulgent moments. There’s no downtime.

Jacob: No, I’ll go. So this is looking down from our tent, and you can’t see it very well, but there are crevasses and he’s like, yeah, you know, just kind of head that way. And he’s like, well, don’t okay.

Timothy: So are you down in I guess you’re avoiding the crevasses that

Jacob: Just want to but you could legitimately just start walking and easily either misstep or Nazi or and yeah, so you don’t wander too far.

Timothy: No concentration levels 100 %.

Jacob: Yeah, you’re still, you’re still up here, and the air is getting thinner.

Timothy: Reminds me of waiting on God there. There’s when God brings you into place where you have to wait on him, and there’s nothing else going on. You can’t fill time. That requires a great deal of self discipline for the mind and the body and to just kind of do, quote, unquote, nothing but wait on God. Sweet stuff that, by the way, that panoramic picture that I saw, I’m able to see it according to the little screen here. Yeah, that is, that really gave a picture what was going on. Now, what is that peak there?

Jacob: That is the little Tahoma. Okay. And you don’t see it very well from the Ashford side, but if you’re from the Seattle side, and you look at the mountain, it’s the little, tiny, pokey one that points out.

Timothy: Gotcha.

Jacob: And, yeah, you can see this from, you know, miles and miles away.

Timothy: I would say you can see, I don’t know how far you can see in the horizon there, that is way out there.

Jacob: It’s really far. The other guys knew all the peaks. I mean, they go, there’s this and that.

Timothy: Sure.

Jacob: I don’t even know what they’re called.

Timothy: They’re annoyingly in shape.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: I never prayed it, but it’s like, Lord, I’d like to just be that in shape, just to see what it’s like.

Jacob: Yeah, yeah. That was our little stick. You kind of didn’t really want to go past the little flag.

Timothy: No, I see that.

Jacob: It’s like see the little flag. So you wander past that and its kinda like eh maybe not

Timothy: So the flag is what a warning stop or just a follow to the flag?

Jacob: The idea actually was like, hey, the flag is kind of where you can go to the bathroom if you need to.

Timothy: Okay, number one point.

Jacob: And then like, don’t wander past it. That’s literally what the flag is.

Timothy: Wow

Jacob: So then the next. Okay, so there’s actually a jump in pictures, because sure, we headed out. It gets like, then even more serious, because then you get into the like actual climb. So we left at 12:45 in the morning and the idea really is that you’re so focused. I didn’t take pictures till we were at the very top.

Timothy: Is that because probably both you were too worn out or too concentrating or just too busy climbing?

Jacob: Too busy climbing. So I’ll show you the route just a little bit.

Timothy: And again, this is great sur material, because that is the Christian there’s just moments when you’re, you have to be able to reach the flag at that point, just nothing but pure perseverance mind you, when Paul says that he despaired of life, he felt the sentence of death, but this happened, that he might rely on God who raises the dead. God likes to bring us to that point when it is beyond our capabilities, beyond what we’re able to do. So that he might put in our hearts, the perseverance, the strength, the love, the Grace of God, go ahead.

Jacob: The guide told us, and even prepped us, because we talked the night before, you kind of have a game plan and so we go, you kind of go up the side.

Timothy: Remind our proverbs, you know, man plans this course, but the war directs a step. So, yeah, you have to make the plan this, you over plan this thing over pack. But then you have to listen to the Lord, like each step, each very step, and I bet you’re gonna tell me that, and become very important.

Jacob: Yeah. So again, footwork. Footwork is very important. From here, you kind of, you know, if you kind of follow my mouse, but it’s super, kind of roughly here, but it gets real. You kind of go along this edge, then you cut up on the rocks. I don’t even know exactly where, but you cut up on here. This whole, this whole chunk is called disappointment cleaver. Also, this is like, pretty much the easiest route.

Timothy: So this disappointment, cleaver.

Jacob: Disappointment cleaver

Timothy: And I assume it’s called disappointment because a lot of people can’t make it. And so you’re disappointed if you have to turn around.

Jacob: It was named that because when the people were 1st, like, hundreds of years ago, trying to climb Rainier. They were climbing and white out conditions. They got to the top of disappointment cleaver and they thought they were at the top of the mountain.

Timothy: Ouch, yeah

Jacob: So then they come down, and the storm clears, and then they can very well see, well, wait a minute, we only got to this spot, which, by the way, if you follow my mouse, right up here, that is the top of disappointment cleaver,

Timothy: Gotcha

Jacob: And they thought they were at the top of Rainier. So then they it was called disappointment, because they didn’t make it,

Timothy: It would be easy and you’d want to think you did.

Jacob: You want to think. So 1st you climb up to right over here. They call it the nose. That’s what they call it and at this point though, like it’s, it’s dangerous. So you move from the flats to the nose with no break.

Timothy: Can’t stop got it.

Jacob: Nope, you can’t stop. And it’s interesting, just like the Christian life, where you always want to be moving forward. The guide said, we will adjust the pace, but it’s more important to set a pace than to stop and take more breaks.

Timothy: That’s what James says. We all stumble them many ways, and I’ve always wanted to forward, never backward. So you’re moving, you know, if you’re stumbling forward, a lot of times you can pick up your feet and keep going. There’s differently in stumbling and falling. That’s what it reminds of. Just keep going. You at least have the momentum of moving yourself forward, and you might be able to take an extra step and catch yourself before you actually fall.

Jacob: And there’s a constant adjustments. So you’re supposed to practice what they call the rest step and the rest step is a, it’s hard to describe. It took half of the climb before I even figured it out. I kid you not, I pretty much trudged up disappointment cleaver got to the top of disappointment cleaver and it wasn’t until, you know, the maybe half of the rest of the climb that I actually figured out what he was talking about.

Timothy: Hebrews, where says, make sure that we enter God’s rest. I know so much of my Christian walk has been learning that secret. Just, we just said, I can’t quite grasp, but what is the Sabbath rest? And, you know, you can debate whether it’s Saturday or Sunday, but that’s not the Sabbath rest. Somehow in the walk, there are moments when you rest, even as you’re walking or standing still. I don’t know, it’s just when he comes along and says, do the Sabbath rest walk, or however he wants that walk to come out, you do it.

Jacob: So yeah, the rest step is this tiny little rest in between each step.

Timothy: So you take a step,

Jacob: You take a step,

Timothy: Then you rest.

Jacob: There’s a, it’s like a micro pause and the whole point is, you’re, all of your weight supposed to keep your back straight because all of your weight is shifted to the back leg. So each step, every other leg, right? You get, each leg gets a tiny little break instead of a constant tension on your muscles.

Timothy: And is that the purpose to give the body that moment of rest to press on?

Jacob: Yes, it’s all about conserving energy. You can’t, you don’t climb mountains the way you run, or walk or bicycle. All of those are good activities, physical activities, but it’s different than climbing.

Timothy: That is so much the Christian walk, where you grab and you don’t, your mind doesn’t go off wondering, you don’t think about the last TV show that you saw, or the fun thing that you did, you really are just resting for that moment and that allows the Holy spirit to talk, to correct, to encourage, to rebuke, whatever the Holy spirit wants to do. There’s that just that, that microsecond of silence, so you can hear his voice. I can’t tell you how many times God has changed my course or direction, or give me words in how to answer somebody, or to be prepared because somebody’s coming up to attack me, or to do whatever it is in those micro moments. But there’s no downtime. You’re, you’re not going to be able to sit your easy chair and go, Oh, this is my Sabbath rest. That’s not a Sabbath rest. I don’t think you pulled out a portable TV at that point.

Jacob: No

Timothy: Started watching anything, as you’re climbing.

Jacob: You also are watching your footwork, depending on terrain. So you will, at times speed up or, or slow down, right? It’s not a perfect rhythm because you still have to constantly adjust your footwork and if you turn a certain way, or you do a certain, you know, maneuver, then you might get a smidge off and then the whole goal is to get right back into the rest step pace that the guide is set. By the way, the guide is always setting the pace as you continue to go. There’s parts that flatten out a smidge. You can go a little, you’ll walk a physically a little bit faster. If it gets to be really steep, he will physically slow down and each step, the rest step is even more important.

Timothy: I’m just eating this up. The Christian life is there are people that grow up in a particular church, and you can predict their emotions, what they’re going and do what they believe. There’s kind of a cookie cutter Christianity, but those move by the spirit can be in one moment one thing and the next moment another thing. You can’t lay down these big rules and principles about, Oh, he’s a quiet person, or he’s a talkative person. Those moved by the spirit that can change in microsecond. You saw Jesus all the time, was all over the place, depending on what was needed. In love for the other person good, but you got to pay attention to the guide at all times.

Jacob: So then when you, when you do get to a break, because there are breaks, there was a mini break on what they call the nose, and we paused for food and water. I’m just kind of telling the story. He calls it,

Timothy: Sure

Jacob: Oh, even by the way, when you’re climbing, you’re always doing something. So even when you pause, he calls it selfcare. You then have to have selfcare. You you have to consume calories, and you have to consume water, but you’re always doing something. That’s what he says.

Timothy: There’s always something that needs to be done.

Jacob: Yes,

Timothy: That’s productive to the walk and anything that wouldn’t be productive to the walk you’re doing would be not doing that.

Jacob: Not doing that yeah

Timothy: By the way, Jacob, give me a whole list of scriptures here. I’m interjecting a lot and you’re telling the story, but I’m not telling Jacob anything. He has already told me. We shelve fellowship back and forth.

Jacob: Yeah. Well, this is, it’s very exciting. The climb made it so much real. I don’t know, to listeners, it’s, it’s extremely, like in the Christian life, you have climbed many mountains and so like you get exactly what I’m talking about. And again, I can’t describe it other than climbing the mountain makes the Christian walk more alive, because there’s these connections. So even, I don’t know, for people listening, they may not even get it, I don’t know.

Timothy: They won’t

Jacob: Yeah It’s exciting to me

Timothy: Oh, it you know, and that’s the sad part, the people that whine and complain are enemies of the cross. The whine about this wine, about that if they would just go live it, they would understand. Or somebody said, why do you have so much slander against you? It will just go live it, and you’ll find out yourself.

Jaob: So, yes, the only thing I’ll say real quick for a move on, so we also you lighten your pack again at the end

Timothy: Alright

Jacob: So when you, when we’re down at all the tents before we head out, the only thing you take is food and water.

Timothy: No wonder Jesus said, remember lot, that they’ll come those moments when you just have to leave everything behind, period. There’s no taking anything or even looking back to get something in your house. Everybody’s sensing the world’s headed to ruin nation, and the economy is going to collapse. There’s going to come that point in time when there’s no point trying to grab on to anything. It’s time to move forward in a much different to go on to the peak of sufferings in Christ, to bring glory to God and to be filled with his presence and that means, in an instant, you have to leave everything behind. I mean, experience that several times in my life and expect it to happen again,

Jacob: You know and if we, if we use the analogy that Jesus is our guide, by the way, the guide has more stuff than me. His whole purpose is to lighten my load, right? So we again, what’s in your pack that night? What are you taking? What are you not taking? I’m pretty much just taking food, water and like my little barber bag. That was it. The guide has more, the guide has a radio. He has the little inreach SOS device. He has the medpac. So his pack is actually heavier, but I have to follow him. If, if something ever goes wrong, he’s the thing that’s going to save me.

Timothy: Again that is, there’s so many times that you get all the way out there, and you go, okay, Lord, I’m all the way out here. If you don’t help me, there is no help. And it increases your obedience toward God in his voice. 1st you want to get past, you know, selfsurvival, but that’s the goal that God’s after. But there becomes that moment when you’re focused, like, you know what? I’m so far out here now in Jesus Christ, and I’ve done what he’s calling me to do and it is so dangerous. If I go back, turn back, look back, think about going back and not listen to him. That is extremely dangerous. I’m putting that a negative way, putting it in the positive way. You get up on the heights with Jesus Christ. It’s his voice. You’re focused in on you’re not taken. Anyway, that is actually a very lovely, beautiful experience and I wish that, well wish I pray and seek after that. Every, every day.

Jacob: It gives a whole new meeting to the scripture about a narrow road when you’re up there and I’m going to jump ahead one picture, just so you can see, but like, it’s just a skinny little path. This is a shot too. So this is my guide right here and if anything goes wrong, he’s the guy.

Timothy: Gotcha

Jacob: He has, these are called pickets. He’s got the rescue gear. And, yeah, I don’t get to carry anything like you’re talking about with Jesus, like you Shen everything, and you’re just following the guide. And the only thing that’s going to save you is this little rope. That’s it. If anything goes wrong, this little rope is what’s going to save me. That’s it.

Timothy: Got you, your whole focus to in a weird kind of sort of ways, you know, if I’m going to save anything, it’s going to be the guide.

Jacob: Yeah, well, we were joking. The guide is so experienced. We were joking that, Oh, I’ll just tell you know, the concept, which is interesting, but this rope is super important. If you look, this guy actually has so this is another team we pause because they’re coming up. And the rope tension is important. If the rope tension is too slack.

Timothy: Okay, that would be liberal Christianity. Keep going

Jacob: If it’s too slack, you could puncture your rope with your boots. And that would that the integrity of the rope is compromised. If it’s too tight, you could yank. So they’re crossing a crevasses right here.

Timothy: It’s just like, that would be the legalism side.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: So it’s gotta be exact

Jacob: And so the, the whole time I’m in the middle, I’m supposed to keep pace with the guide and make sure that the, and this is a pretty decent example of it’s not like really hanging on the ground, like we’re pad so the ropes on the ground, you don’t want the whole thing hanging on the ground, and you don’t want the thing super tight. It’s supposed to be right in the middle and you’re supposed to be managing that rope the entire time.

Timothy: Let me read this scripture in Galatians 5:25, because one thing that’s come through and everything you said is you have to follow the guide step by step. Yes and Galatians 5:25 says, since we live by the spirit, let us keep in step with the spirit. I’ll kind of stop at the moment because we’re making the point, but that passage alone is crucial to being a disciple of Jesus and when you sense the Holy spirit further away you get, you got to catch up or if it’s slowing down and you’re getting ahead of the Holy spirit, there’s a whole that you could take and go on a walk like this and just meditate on. Galatians 5:25.

Jacob: Yeah, you could you for a very long time. And again, the guide sets the pace, and he knows the route. I never been up this mountain, ever, never. And Oh, you know, by the way, even in the Christian life, like Jesus has has or plans for different people, there’s different routes up here.

Timothy: Amen

Jacob: And each one has its own finesse

Timothy: And you can’t whine, well, they’ve got an easier route or more difficult or whatever, a more glorious one or whatever.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: You go on the route that he’s called you to go on.

Jacob: Yeah

Timothy: Peter learned that when he want to know what Jesus was going to do with John.

Jacob: Yeah, yeah, I was even I had thought of that scripture. Where is it?

Timothy: You talking about where is the scripture you mean in John?

Jacob: Oh, yeah in John, well, yeah, I was thinking when Jesus turns to Peter, right? He talks about where, you know, you dressed yourself, you went where you wanted to go, but when you’re older, someone else is going to lead you. Is that the one you’re talking about?

Timothy: Yes it is

Jacob: Yeah it’s John 21:18 yep

Timothy: And I’m down to 21, 22. John, it’s interesting, you know, if the Lord came to me and said, this is how you’re gonna die, and this is what you’re gonna and do, my you’d think you’d be thankful at that point. But there’s still too much of self in us and so Peter doesn’t go, hey, Jesus, thanks for telling me that.

Jacob: Oh, yeah.

Timothy: I mean, it was quite a blessing that, that’s Jesus telling Peter he will be faithful, that he’ll, that he’ll be able to repent of denying Jesus, and he knows the future. But that’s not what he’s concerned about. He’s concerned what about John over here. And that’s why in John 21, 22, Jesus answered, if I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you, you must follow me. Some people might be taken to a park a mountain near and just, that’s all they walk around. And what they do, that’s what God’s called them to do. I don’t turn and whine and go, well, why are they allowed to go at the park? And I got to climb up here. Everybody has their mountain, their walk with Jesus, that they must walk and it’s going to involve some level of suffering, some level of joy. He he is the guide for everyone’s life.

Jacob: It’s interesting. This is actually not the best shot, but whenever you get to what they call the crater, which sometimes people get to the crater, and the weather is so horrendous they actually stop. And technically, technically, they consider it’s almost like a cheater. I made sure, and told the guide, even before we went up, like, I wanted to go to the tippy top. I didn’t want to sacrifice like a cheater spot.

Timothy: Gotcha

Jacob: And so you pop out into this crater. And so it’s way over on the right is where you 1st pop out, and you take a nice big break, and then you actually shed your pack completely. There’s no you take, you know, you eat a snack, you drink some water, and then you don’t really have to. We packed over some barber gear to do my haircut, but at that point, then you have no pack at all. You don’t have anything, and you just have, but you’re not done. You still have another little which, by the time you get to the top at 14,000, whatever feet it is, 1450 or something like the air is thin. You are like, you know, you’re constantly trying to what they call pressure, breathe because you have less oxygen and not that it’s terrible, but then you still have another little stroll to go all the way across the crater up this side. These are what they call the steam vents, and then to the tippy top.

Timothy: Gotcha gotcha

Jacob: The activity top they call Columbia crest.

Timothy: So the cheater spot. Is it technically considered a climb, or is it exactly what it says? A cheater spot?

Jacob: No, well, it’s very much a climb.

Timothy: Well, I mean, in terms of saying, why did what I needed to do, I’m, what I’m trying to get at is there’s lobby claiming they’ve done God’s will, or the 1st time they’ve faced some hardships. And OK, I’m at the peak. I did that, but it wasn’t the peak he was leading to. Is it that kind of cheater peak, or is it considered kind of valid?

Jacob: It’s considered valid.

Timothy: Okay

Jacob: But there still is something, for me, there was something too, like, well, but you didn’t really.

Timothy: Sure, sure.

Jacob: To the top.

Timothy: It reminds me in Hebrews, where people were in jail, and they came to release them. And Hebrews says they refused to be released that they might gain a better resurrection. In other words, they had a good resurrection. They had been suffering in prison for Jesus Christ, but they went one step further. And it’s not said they wouldn’t receive their glory and their thanks and, and I would be humbled in their presence. But I’m in awe of those who go, no, lock the key, leave me in prison. Those are people that want to go on to glorify God, even more than I’m Waring this sloppily, but more than what God even wants them to do.

Jacob: Yeah. In the guide service, it’s a perfect technology. In the guide service, you still get, if you only hit the crater, you still get a certificate.

Timothy: Okay.

Jacob: So it’s, it’s a, you say it’s valid, but to me, yeah, you’re not at the tippy top. No. So we got up at the tippy top. We did two haircuts, and then it’s still a trek down.

Timothy: Yeah, most people, yeah. It reminds me when the disciples were up a mountain and Jesus appears, and angels are there, and they go, let’s build a house and stay here. Who, who would want to now you got to come back down to the real world and real suffering. So go back up and talk about the haircut a little bit there.

Jacob: When you get up there, I feel like it’s not like Everest, obviously, but my brain was working a little bit slower. You reach a point, Oh, I don’t have a picture, because again, you’re like climbing night, right? With little headlamps on the guy told me they call it high point. And high point, I don’t remember the exact measurement, high points, maybe around 13,000 ft. I don’t even remember the exact spot. This guy knows the mountain, like the back of his hand, you reach high point and he said, there’s gonna be a time when you’re gonna be thinking, or maybe saying, I don’t want to do this anymore. And then you just have to push. And he didn’t say this, but obviously, you, if you want the goal, if you want to reach the top, you just push. And I can, I can remember just the memory of the spot kind of on the mountain, and suddenly you definitely have this, like, why am I doing this? And the air, I would say, right around 13,000 ft legitimately, is thin enough that my brain slowed down.

Timothy: Let, let me stop you there for just a moment.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Because had you not been cutting hair for as long as you have, it wouldn’t be part of your character. In other words, you could get all the way the top. But if you’d never cut hair before, the brain would not be able to, probably to perform it. Not correct. That should be done.

Jacob: Absolutely.

Timothy: So you’re running on character.

Jacob: You’re running. Yeah, it’s just, it’s muscle memory. Cutting hair, at this point, to me, is muscle memory.

Timothy: Correct and let’s go to Romans 5:1. It’s a little bit long, but I’ll try and keep the sermon down a little bit. Says, therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Everybody that claims to be a Christian likes that passage. It’s a great passage, don’t get me wrong. But since they only take one part of it, they’re the spectators down at the mountain going, yeah, yeah, it’s beautiful view. Romans 5:2 says, through whom we have gained access by faith, into this Grace in which we now stand and we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Everybody will rejoice in the hope of the glory of God again, they’re the spectators down at the bottom of the mountain going, Oh, great job. And you mean we’re living vicariously through the pictures and that kind of thing. Look at what he says, they rejoice in next. So to the degree you would rejoice in the fact that you’re being saved and with Jesus Christ and the blood of Jesus and all the things of heaven. Look at Romans 5:3. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings. Yeah, really? Again, I’m going to ask you a redundant question, Jacob, when’s the last time you found any rejoicing in the actual sufferings of Jesus?

Jacob: None. People don’t even suffer.

Timothy: Let alone to be talking about on equal measure.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: If, if I bring in a balanced gospel and talk about the good things of God, I’m Herald, you know, as a great preacher. If I bring in the sufferings on the same level, well, then of course, I’m a cult leader, a brain washer and so on. But look what he says, not only so and, and that’s why the people that claim the promises above, but refuse to go down below, are not true Christians are not disciples of Jesus. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings. Rejoice in our sufferings. You’re rejoicing in this climb. You’re rejoicing in the view. We’re rejoicing, but we’re sensing the hard work you’re up there. Your brain is not being able to function. So what’s working there? Because we know that suffering produces perseverance. Everybody wants the suffering of Jesus to go away quickly. Believe me, I’m one of those. But I persevere. I hang in there. Why? Why is his God bring suffering? Why does he require perseverance? Romans 5:4, perseverance or let me back up there. We know that suffering produces perseverance, perse it’s character. And then once you have character, you have hope. So you’re up there in character. It’s, it’s ingrained. It’s who you are. I’m much different than I was when I came to Jesus Christ, when I was 19 and now where I’m at, there’s a lot of character changes that have taken place that I couldn’t get rid of. I’d have to work at it to get rid of them. Because the sufferings of Jesus, the perseverance of Christ, have produced a character, and it’s in that character. And this is why most people don’t have true hope. Look at what it says. It produces character and character. Hope. You don’t even get the hope to you get the character. Not a the Hope I had when I was 19 was a a good hope in the sense it was faith in Jesus Christ to do the work. The hope, on this end, is based on the fact that he has changed me. I have seen him more good. I have suffered in many, many different ways, and has produced a hope that is alive and powerful and solid. And that’s why he says, Romans 5;5. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy spirit, whom he has given us 1st John says, perfect love drives out all fear. Those that claim that without the suffering Christ are living a lie, and they need to be told they’re living a lie. When you get this character, when you get the perseverance, when you go through the suffering, God then is able to just pour out his love. And you can walk more closely that love than you did a year ago, six months ago, and certainly ten years ago, up here. We’re just kind of witnessing again. You’ve got these series of boots on. You’re up at the top. I can just not feel the air that you’re trying to breathe, and you’re pulling out a thing to cut people’s hair. Amazing. Amazing to watch. Go ahead.

Jacob: I think no amen to everything you said. A lot of people have this false hope. You’re, like you said, they they skip down to the hope part. Everybody skips, everybody skips over that word suffering. And that’s where it starts. The suffering in Christ is where it starts before you ever get to the hope and everybody wants to skip it and just like those 1st climbers that went on top of disappointment cleaver, and thought they were at the top, these people think they’re at the top. Maybe they have persevered some, but there’s not that character. There’s not the real hope. It’s just really interesting. Yeah, how, how you break it down like that?

Timothy: That’s a good point. There are people different levels, or people down at the bottom, you know, enjoying the picnic, that are way down there.

Jacob: There’s some that maybe are in between.

Timothy: And then you got disappointment ridge, which means they get disappointed in their Christian life. They’ve done all this suffering. We’ve seen plenty of people even go, I did suffer. I did this, and did that. They didn’t press on the top.

Jacob: Yeah, I had talked to when I was at camp, mirror groups come down, and as they’re coming down, sometimes you chit chat. And I didn’t, I didn’t know what condition I would be when I got to the top. This guy had made it to the very top, right where I’m standing or stood. And he said, but I got up there. I was so tired and gassed, I literally just kind of like laid there for a couple minutes and then he’s like, let’s get out of here because I’m so tired. So, yeah, just when you get up there, I didn’t, I didn’t know, like, I didn’t know if I would even be able to do a haircut.

Timothy: Sure

Jacob: But yeah, get up there. And then it’s just, yeah, muscle memory to do that haircut to get her done.

Timothy: And we want to get past that as mature Christians, where we can get to the top, we’re certainly going to be weak and but we’re not going to be in a hurry to leave. You’re going to be able to savor a little bit. You’re able to do the haircut. This is the point, to be obedient to what Jesus would have you to do.

Jacob: And then you start the trek down

Timothy: Let me ask you a question to do these guides? Were they like in total shape could do this without like a walk in the park for them?

Jacob: The, the actual guide, because the other guy was just a buddy of his, the actual guide. This is nothing. Mount Rainier is nothing to them.

Timothy: There are those mature Christians where this stuff is again, we’re back to Hebrew sources sold in too and refuse to. They’re just and I admire them. I’m humbled in their presence. I’m an American Christian. I’m just the minimum Christian. Anyway, I don’t want to get too sidetracked, but

Jacob: But yeah, like,

Timothy: it’s impressive.

Jacob: All, all of my effort to get up to the very top, right? This guy, he’ll go, he can go up and down multiple times in one day.

Timothy: Wow

Jacob: So he like, there’s other people on these, on these guided trips, who don’t make it. He’ll like, go to 13,000 ft. There’s a guy who can’t make it. He escorts him all the way back down to camp mirror, and then heads right back up again.

Timothy: Wow.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: I’m soaking that one in.

Jacob: And then you still have a trek down.

Timothy: Yep

Jacob: It’s still dangerous going down

Timothy: Different set of muscles. I remember the nothing compares what we did here. But coming down, it was not quite as exhausting but sore in a lot of different places.

Jacob: Yeah. But it’s, and then it’s all the same stuff. The same stuff is repeated. Watch your footwork, watch the ropes. It’s not over yet. You still got to get down to the car.

Timothy: Reminds me when Jesus is on the cross, and at one point he says it’s finished. Well, he was still hanging on that cross. If you look at that, you would think if I was on there and said, it’s finished, okay, I’m out of here now. I want out now. But Jesus is in no hurry to leave. He’s still hanging on the cross and finishing and taking care of other things while he’s up there. So let’s skip that for now. Go ahead and keep talking

Jacob: Well, I was just going to comment, you know, so even me, when I’m trekking up and you’re, you’re actually contemplating like, wow, Jesus carried that cross. Well, he carried it, carried it, carried it and yeah. Then he was actually nailed to it, technically crucified. And then the process of crucifixion is you sit there for hours and hours and hours and suffer on the cross before he gets to say it’s finished. And, and, and yeah, everybody wants to say the prayer, and then you’re going to heaven.

Timothy: And not to mention that I shudder. I get mad. I get frustrated on the Lord, all the different emotions. When somebody else do something, they’ll stand up against something, and they get victory’s even a strong word. But they get a little bit of victory. And everybody’s shouting that, Oh, they’re Deborah, or their David or whatever. You haven’t even begun to do the fight. Nobody’s finished it. So anyway, I had to pass a plate here if I keep going.

Jacob: Yeah, but there’s not much more to the story other than it’s a really long Slough down. The only thing I will say only just like even the the person that passed away, he was coming down, died.

Timothy: Oh okay

Jacob: And I was definitely getting really tired coming down.

Timothy: Good point, good point. So go ahead. So you know what the the character listening to your guide.

Jacob: Yeah,

Timothy: Would have to carry through. If I were starting fresh, you’d be going, I really have to listen to the guy. The guy is telling me, I listen. Okay. So I’m spending my time thinking about listening to the guide. But once the character is there, and you’re coming down, and this is dangerous, that point, you really have to operate more on character than on willpower.

Jacob: Yeah, exactly. Even even for me, the few lessons I had learned in climbing on the way up are the same lessons going down, but you still want to be careful, yeah. That you’re, you’re not overconfident. And either nothing’s going to happen, or, you know, and then you slip and fall. And the general, the story, I heard the guy who had died, he ultimately wasn’t roped up somehow. Whether it was overconfidence or foolishness, I don’t know. And, and then he, he didn’t footwork, he lost his footing. He was on a lot of this rocky stuff that’s really funky to walk on. And, and lost it again.

Timothy: Could have been just wore out character. Yeah. All right. Very good.

Jacob: And then this last picture, it’s kind of cool. I think there was a couple other ones. You can barely see the, you know, it’s a clear day when you can see Mount Adams here. And then as we move to the right, this is Mount Hood. You can hardly see it. But this little, tiny peak right there is Mount Jefferson. And then there’s Mount St. Helens right there.

Timothy: Plenty of mountains there to Jesus to take you on.

Jacob: And this is camp mirror the little spot right here.

Timothy: Nice, nice. Once you pay the play, the why don’t you play the cutting video again then we’ll wrap it up.

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