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78 fellowship pt 1 Simmons bible walking in the light

Timothy: We’re about to consider a question Prosecutor Jason Simmons should have never asked.

Intro: Welcome to the consider podcast where we examine today’s wisdom, folly and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Timothy: Good morning, Jacob. How’s it going?

Jacob: Good morning. Going good.

Timothy: I got up today around 4:30 a.m. And then I had, I’ve got two different toothpastes. I’ve got like a cinnamon flavor. And then I’ve got one that’s in my age, it does well to have the enamel hardened up. And then I took care of all of that stuff. And then I went out and I was trying to figure out which sweater to wear today. Black one or whatever. Of course, I’m not going anywhere, not on the move or anything like that. And then, then I was looking at which sock, because it’s cold out. Should I go with the thinner socks? Because if I go with the thinner socks, that’s better. My feet sweat a lot, but my feet get cold that way. So, I chose to go with the thicker socks and a thinner boot kind of thing. But I couldn’t decide whether the brown boots or the black boots. Because I’ve kind of got two pair. One’s more for rain or for whatever. Then I went out to the kitchen and unloaded the dishwasher and put all the dishes up and that kind of thing and started brewing some coffee.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Don’t you have any questions so far?

Jacob: Yeah. Why are we randomly talking about your morning?

Timothy: Well, I’m walking in the light.

Jacob: Oh, are you? Okay.

Timothy: Yeah. According to Prosecutor Jason Simmons and Judge Lori K. Smith’s courtroom, walking in the light is reporting everything you do.

Jacob: Oh, funny enough, I do not remember this exact quote from them. That’s what they say walking in the light is, huh? Everything.

Timothy: Yep, that’s what walking in the light is. Everything, every aspect of what you do in your life.

Jacob: You didn’t say what color jeans. You said you were going to do like a sweater. You talked about socks. I didn’t hear anything about jeans. What color?

Timothy: It’s not fair.

Jacob: The thickness?

Timothy: You’re not telling me what you do every day. You haven’t been walking in the light either.

Jacob: I haven’t been walking for every single step.

Timothy: I don’t want to get too far ahead, but.

Jacob: Well, I have Crohn’s disease. Do you want to hear about all of my bowel movements?

Timothy: Well, have to because we walk in the light. You share every aspect of your life.

Jacob: Everything.

Timothy: All right. Let’s play the clip and dive into this massive level of corruption that unless he repents and Judge Lori K. Smith repents, they’re going to deeply regret it.

Video: It is time to turn our attention to a top tier consideration on the Consider Podcast. What we are about to discuss is the most important matter in the universe. This topic is, above all, religious, cultural, legal, societal, scientific, church denominations, or Bible issues. There is no higher discussion point. It is the summit, the peak, and the high point of all godly mountains to climb. It is beyond legal laws, philosophies, personal goals, prayers, hopes, or aspirations. There is no higher contemplation than this because now we are discussing God himself. We are about to discuss God’s personality and psychology. That is the essence of who God is specifically and inherently what constitutes his makeup. Namely, the eternal fact God is living love. Indeed, God is the only source of love and a person not totally surrendering to the living God cannot love others. Such are powerless to love others. 1st John 4:16, “God is love”|. Whoever lives in love lives in God and God in him. Or consider 1st John 4:8, “Whoever does not love does not know God because God is love.”

The reason this love is above all except God is because God is love. Any person, government agency, judicial power, law enforcement, attorney general, including your next-door neighbor who offends holy love, offends God himself. Attack a true disciple of Jesus and you are literally seeking to harm a living God. Because God is love, he or she who strikes at righteousness, holiness, and the love of God is slapping God in the face. Unbelievers to their endangerment often strike blows at God. The only reason they are offered mercy is because they commit such sins in ignorance. Whereas a claiming Christian who sins against God’s love cannot be prayed for, be forgiven, or redeemed from hell because they sinned unto death. 1st John 5:16, “If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life.” I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that.

The Consider Podcast is about to pivot to one of the most important matters, namely God’s love. 1st John 3:10-18, “This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are. Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother. This is the message you heard from the beginning. We should love one another. Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brothers were righteous. Do not be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer. And you know that no murderer has eternal life in him. This is how we know what love is. Jesus Christ laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue, but with actions and in truth.” The Consider podcast. Examining today’s wisdom, folly, and madness. www.consider.info.

Timothy: We’re kind of past sarcasm a little bit. It may creep up in there, but this is so serious of all the things, like I said, that this corrupt King County court went into. And by the way, they’ve committed crimes. It’s really shocking to me that Judge Lori K. Smith and Simmons are not in prison. They violated every rule of the constitution. Every due procedure. It’s just a good thing that Governor Ferguson and the current attorney general are just as inept and unconcerned about Christians, because otherwise they would be prosecuted. This is a no-brainer. They either should have known, or they, in my opinion, they actually knew what everybody was up to. McCall, everybody down the line. They knew these people were lying, but they didn’t care. Anyway, when you ask this question, Mr. Simmons, because we’re doing a Bible study that we hope you repent, you are striking at the heart of God.

It’s said in Scripture, in the Psalms that “The Jewish people are the apple of God’s eye.” Well, this goes beyond the apple of the eye. This goes to the heart of who God is, and the nature of your question and the way that you’re asking, and you’re giving freedom to false witnesses to lie, you have struck at the heart of God. This is way past any type of religious discussion. Am I making myself clear, Jacob?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: I’m trying to take it really slow and let this sink in, that this is a deadly sin. In fact, if you’re a Christian and you commit this sin, and we’ll talk about what this is in a moment, you cannot be forgiven, and in fact, other Christians around you can’t even pray for you. That’s how serious this is, because you’re striking against love, which is the character of God. It’s not an aspect of God. It’s not a part of his personality. It is exactly who he is in essence, and when you come in and you strike at this, you’re striking at God himself on a very personal level. Any comments on that?

Jacob: No, go ahead. I’ll let you keep going.

Timothy: Okay. So, Prosecutor Simmons, we’ll play a little clip here in a moment. It’s going to ask, when you say fellowship, what does that mean? And of course, the false witness goes through. We’ll get into that in a moment. It’s absurd. But the fellowship is only between the living God and the disciple of Jesus. Now, when I say only, what I mean is we’re talking a real personal relationship with the living God. When the answer to that question, what do you mean when you say fellowship, it starts with a fellowship with the living God. Anything else is just religion or Bible study or concepts. Now, the people testifying may have viewed this as a religion, but that’s because they didn’t do what they were being taught, which was to seek a relationship with the living God. You have to realize that God’s looking for people that love him. That’s a relationship. That’s beyond religious, just beyond everything that we saw. Any comment on that, Jacob? If not, go ahead and play that clip.

Video: Court testimony: Washington State, Prosecutor Jason Simmons. And when you say fellowship, what does that mean? Pressing further to prosecute Christianity. Mr. Simmons sets up a false witness to lie about walking in the light. Prosecutor Simmons: And how much of your, as a result of your understanding of your involvement, how much of your life were you to tell to talk about false witness? Well, we were encouraged to walk in the light. That means you tell any and everything that you do. End court testimony.

Now, let’s examine what walking in the light really means in truth. Reading from the New Testament. 1 John 1 verse 1 through verse 7, “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched. This we proclaim concerning the word of life. The life appeared. We have seen it and testify to it. And we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the father and has appeared to us. We proclaim to you, what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the father and with his son, Jesus Christ. We write this to make our joy complete.”

This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you. God is light in him. There is no darkness at all. If we claim that fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus. His son purifies us from all sin. The consider podcast examining today’s wisdom, folly and madness.

Timothy: That sounds anything remotely like the fault was false witness who said, “Well, we were encouraged to walk in the light.” That means you tell any and everything that you do.

Jacob: No, that does not sound like what they are describing.

Timothy: No. And they’re flat out lying. I’ve watched some of the video of this back and forth and a couple of these people testify and got this smirk on their face. Now, I’m sure the smirks there for a lot of reasons, but one of them is it just seems to me at some point they’re looking at Simmons and going, you are a chump because they know they’re lying. They know he’s statue. He doesn’t want the truth. He didn’t even go look for any evidence. And by the way, Simmons has said in the trial that you got to have trials without evidence. Otherwise, nobody would ever be prosecuted. Right, Jacob?

Jacob: No one would ever like come forward and tell their story.

Timothy: You have to believe them. Well, you have to believe them for sure. And of course, there’s just trials without evidence. Otherwise, if it required evidence, he said no one would be prosecuted. Well, here’s the problem with this in this particular case. And I’m just clarifying it for people. There was evidence to go get it. This is not like a case that was presented him and go, well, it’s impossible to get evidence, happen when they were four years old and a different state on the backside of the moon and you couldn’t go get evidence that. So, he’s lying upon lying upon layer of lying. This case had evidence everywhere from the house to the hate crime to the activities. There was evidence everywhere. They just didn’t go get it. And so, when they’re going, there’s no evidence. Well, it’s because they didn’t go get any evidence. All right. Backing up a little bit. What were we talking about? Jacob? Do you remember? We paid attention.

Jacob: We just were talking about first John one, five, and the difference between the people on the stands perception of what walking in the light is.

Timothy: Well, and I’m just a slight correction. That was not perception. They knew they were lying. There was no, there was nothing remotely about walking light is tell me everything you did and tell me, that’s what we’re supposed to do. Think about just even the lot. Let’s just take that logic for just a minute. Okay? You have a church, a group of people, 20 people. And I go, okay, everybody needs to tell everybody exactly what they’re doing. Would we even be able to get out of the building and go live a life?

Jacob: No, correct. You would not have time to anything.

Timothy: It’s absurd in its statement. And that’s not what it means. How can I explain this to prosecutor Simmons and other people? How do you explain what walking in the light is? I’m not saying they’re going to accept it, but, but how do you formulate to them something they’ve never experienced? Do King County courts walk in the light, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: No, they keep everything as hidden as possible. It’s quite ironic to me that he’s whining about really persecuting and prosecuting the fact that we’re talking about walking in the light where things get exposed, where people confess sins, where they feel forgiven all the things that we’re going to talk about here in just a moment. And yet the state of Washington is just now passing laws that if you go into the confessional booth and you confess that you did a crime or they always use the excuse of abuse or whatever, right? That the priest has to report it. So, what are they requiring? They requiring the priest to walk in the light.

Jacob: Walk in the light with Washington state though, specifically, right? Yes.

Timothy: Whereas walking…

Jacob: You have to tell them what you’ve done.

Timothy: Correct. And it’s just a power play. And it’s really stupid anyway, just a side issue. That’s the stupidest laws going because all you do is drive that sin deeper underground.

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: And that causes people that have been susceptible to that particular perversion or crime to bury it more, to try and overcome it in the darkness. And they’re not going to be able to. So, you’re cutting off any source for a solution. But, but again, prosecutor Simmons and judge Lori K Smith, they don’t want to cure child abuse. Neither does the state of Washington. They’re doing everything in their power to increase the perversion. And then the prosecutors do everything in their power to prosecute the perversion that Washington state is increasing. All right. So, what is walking in the light? Well, Simmons, it is not, it is not what you do in King County court where everybody is forced to give evidence to tell this part of it, right? Because they have the law, the guns, that’s not what this is about. And I wish he’d quit measuring Christianity by your little narrow, little world called King County court. Because the church is nothing like that. There was no, you know, when a judge comes out, what do they say, Jacob?

Jacob: They come out and then they say, you can sit down cause they’re standing there.

Timothy: Well, they’re, yeah, they’re supposed to say, rise judge, Lori honorable judge, Lori K Smith.

Jacob: Sometimes they did that sometimes. Yeah, they would do all rise, all rise. Yeah.

Timothy: It used to be honorable.

Jacob: So sure.

Timothy: They force you by law to stand up and say your honor or you’re so honorable or stand up for respect. Right?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Well, Sound Doctrine Church wasn’t like, did I walk into room and everybody rise? Because the honorable Timothy Williams has entered the building.

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Of course not. It’s a complete opposite. So, stop, stop judging me by your guilty conscience in your corrupt ways in King County court. We submit to governing authorities. If God didn’t tell me to stand and for the honorable judge, Lori K Smith, I can assure you, I would not stand because that’s a lie. It’s a lie to say she’s honorable. There’s nothing honorable about King County courts. So, it begins with that whole fundamental lie. And when you frame true Christianity by your darkness, you’re committing a grievous, grievous sin. And that’s what we’re talking about. We’re going to dig into this here in a little bit. Any more before I start digging actually into the scriptures, Jacob?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: All right. We’re talking, when you walk in the light, it’s a normal thing that happens because you’re in the light. In other words, you got a bedroom that’s dark, right? And you walk into it and you flip on the light, do certain aspects of what you’re doing, get exposed, Jacob, or just everything become flooded with light.

Jacob: Everything becomes flooded with light.

Timothy: Right. That’s one of the things that walking in the light means it’s a general openness and an awareness of what’s going on. Yes, every aspect of your life is known, but not told because you’re walking in the light. When you walk in the room, Jacob, I can tell what color shirt you have or sweatshirt you have and what you got printed on and what kind of jeans and your haircut, right? Do you have to tell me all those things?

Jacob: No. If you come out, if like you were describing your day this morning, like if you walk out, I can tell what jeans you’re wearing. I can see what shoes you’re wearing. I can see what sweater you’re wearing.

Timothy: It’s all a natural thing.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: So, walking light, isn’t this reporting to forget, man, this isn’t depositions. This is, this wasn’t like church of legal corruption. Take a deposition. Now, those who don’t want to repent and those who don’t want to walk in the light, we’ll find this to be massively oppressive. Correct?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: The reason this person is testifying this way is two reasons. One, everybody that’s left sound doctrine church knew exactly what to say to justify themselves. And so, so-and-so knew what so-and-so had said and so-and-so knew what so-and-so said. And so, everybody’s saying the same thing. So, it’s called Mob Violence, by the way, Simmons, the constitution, the bill of rights, every law was designed for you to protect us from them. But you turned this into lynch mob, breaking all kinds of laws. All right. So anyway, walking light is first of all, just a natural aspect of being in a church where, and again, this isn’t just, this is not something we put on. This is the power of God. The relationship that I have with God is one of a loving relationship. He is more real to me than Jacob is. He’s more real to me than me. He’s more real to me than everything around me. This is a very real viable relationship. And when you strike at that, you’re, it’s like striking at someone’s kids or your wife or somebody that you love coming in on a little thing. It’s a very personal, heartfelt, total attack of everything the person is. 1^st John 1:1. What does he say?

Now, listen to the wording here, that which was from the beginning. In other words, we’re talking about God is more real to me than the world is to me. He goes, “Which we have heard.” Are you picking up on how personal is. Like he’s saying this, this is what it feels like. I can hear this. This is real, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched this. We proclaim concerning the word of life. Do you catch what he’s saying? I’m not offering anybody the Christian religion. I am certainly never offering anybody the sound doctrine churches take on the Bible. This is not any type of a religious philosophical discussion. This is a hands-on eye to eye ear to ear. We’re touching this. This is the Jesus we were presenting.

Now, whether somebody reaches out to love God, I can’t help that. In fact, we’ll get into that. I don’t know. Just a little bit. Makes sense. Jacob, nobody’s offering anybody a religion here.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: It goes on to say in first John 1:2, “The life appeared.” See what’s he’s life. This is something real. This is light. This is warm. This is revealing. This is healing. It also breaks. It also shows blemishes. If you walk in, okay, if you walk into the bathroom in the morning, Jacob flip on the light, are you going to see that your hair is maybe not combed or you need to shave once in a while or something?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Every woman who puts on makeup, what are same thing? What are you really looking for? You’re looking for faults, right?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Now, the only time you don’t correct your wife, when for her fault is when she’s already dressed up, got the makeup on, comes out and go, do I look all right now? You can go ahead, but I think you’d be foolish to go, you know, I just don’t like that dress. I go for it. But when a woman goes into a mirror and she’s getting dressed and putting makeup on, what is she looking for? She’s looking for imperfections. Now that’s one thing. Of course, people that don’t want to repent aren’t going to go into the mirror and aren’t going to look and they’re going to get mad and they’re getting angry. But for those that are walking in the light, Jacob, do I not have an attitude? Have I not turned to you? Like, if you see something, tell me.

Jacob: Correct. Yes.

Timothy: Absolutely. That’s just a good part. That’s the blessing. You understand? I don’t want to sin. I mean, I don’t want to sin. Therefore, it’s like, I’m not going, “Oh, what’s Jacob going to get onto me today about? And what’s he going to point out?” No, it’s something that I want to happen because I have blind spots and I can’t see, even though I’m walking in the light, it’s everybody walking in the light, not just leadership and people that are following. Everybody’s on the same servant level. In fact, by the way, Mr. Simmons, those that claim to be teachers, scripture says will be judged more severely. This is no high and mighty kind of thing. Like, “Ooh, I’m the prosecutor of the year and I’m the woman judge of the year.” Nobody’s going to accolades or were getting accolades at sound doctrine church for doing or being anything. That’s not the nature of the Christian walk. We’re talking humility here. We’re talking brokenness, working out of salvation with Holy fear and trembling. This isn’t like the fear that you have in the courtroom where everybody knows you can trick them and the police will lie and they’ll take away their rights. This isn’t the fear.

Remember, I believe one of your excuses with one of your encounters, the police was that you were afraid of the police. That’s not what this is about. This is walking light. This is healing. This is somebody saying, “Hey, I’m sick. And the solution is to go get in the light.” There’re some diseases you have. Those say, go get some sunshine. Now, not everybody wants the light or to rephrase that correctly. Very few people actually want to walk in light because they don’t want to give up their sin. Oh, well, I like this sin and I like to dress this way and so on. So, they rebel against it, but we’re talking something very, very, very personal. Verse 2, again, “The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it.” We have seen it. We have felt it. I’m not telling you anything that I haven’t experienced or tasted. Does that mean I’ve experienced all the things of God? Of course, that’s not what I’m saying. It’s a relationship. Don’t strain on gnats and swallow camels. “And we proclaim to you the eternal life.” Well, what has he been proclaiming? Jacob? Has he been proclaiming like ask Jesus in your heart and you’ll be saved?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: He has been proclaiming and saying, we heard them. We, we touched him. Our eyes have seen him. This is the word of life. This is so real. That’s what he is preaching to other people. And this false witness had told you over walking in the light means that you tell any and everything you do. That is such blaspheme. That is so the opposite. Not only Sound Doctrine Church, but the nature of who God is. This is eternal life. The life appeared. We have seen it. We testify to it. “And we proclaim to you the eternal life,” which is Jesus himself. Relationship is what he’s saying, which was with the father and has appeared to us. What’s he bringing back to this? You go, because the Greek and the Hebrew say, this is the way to be saved.

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Let me read that again. The life appeared. We have seen it. We testify to it. We proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the father. It goes from all the attributes to this is who had a relationship with the living God. And he’s saying, “This is what we preach.” There was nothing. Had you bothered to read any of the books or the tracks, at least with a decent heart, you would have discovered everything has to do with a relationship with the living God. One-on-one then relationships out of that, or out of that relationship to the living God, every other relationship flows. That’s why there’s no favoritism and everybody knows the same experiences. Anything before I go on to verse 3 of 1st John 1.

Jacob: No.

Timothy: All right. “We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard.” You kind of get the point. He’s repeating it over and over again. So that look at that. “So that you also may have fellowship with us.” Do we catch the subtlety of what he’s saying there, Jacob? We proclaim to you what we’ve seen and heard, right? He knows they’re in a personal relationship with God. They’re experiencing light with him and brokenness and everything flows from loving the Lord, your God, with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul, and all your strength. And then he goes, and you have that relationship and you’re building on that, carrying your cross, hating your own life, denying yourself, following the Holy spirit. When that relationship with the living God is happening, you will also then have fellowship with us. “We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may also have fellowship with us.” The fellowship in the church has, and I, this is so worldly is second to God.

There is no second, but you get my point. Like Jacob, your only relationship is your relationship with God. Out of that thing comes a relationship with me. And then we fellowship together because we’re both totally seeking God. There’s a lot of people I don’t fellowship with because why God hasn’t brought that into relationship. There was no, this whole business of the person eventually testified, Malcolm was assigned to me and the implication was to tell everything about my life. There was no assigning because God was in charge. There might’ve been wisdom applied, but that’s different than assignment. All right. What does he go on to say in 1st John 1:3, “And our fellowship is with the father and with his son, Jesus Christ.” Well, now hang on here a moment. You got to notice Mr. Simmons. This is about when you say, what is fellowship all about? Fellowship is about only this. “And our fellowship is with the father and with his son.”

You want the answer to what was fellowship at sound doctrine church. It was supposed to be fellowship with the father and the son. And then out of that was the blessing where we had fellowship with one another. And some people found that to be true. Some people tasted it. Did I explain that decent enough? Jacob, anything that I’ve kind of left unsaid at the moment?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Of course, Mr. Simmons, you’re not going to like any of this anymore. I mean, I can dispel the lie that it wasn’t this stupid, like report everything to everybody and whatever implication that is. I can dispel that, but that doesn’t mean you’re going to like the truth. In fact, that’s part of the problem. He is Mr. Simmons, King County courts. Everybody could have picked up the scripture about walking. Like read the same thing we’re talking about, right, Jacob?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: And a lot of them claim to be Christian so that they could have prayed and go, well, Lord, you know what? Maybe Sound Doctrine is true. Maybe this is your tell. Tell me what this means. Show me where they’re going wrong. They could have sought God. They could have read these scriptures. In fact, they’re accusing us of some weird application of this. I’m assuming without ever listening to a sermon tape or cracking a Bible, or all they did was feed off the gospel. They might as well put a sign out. For instance, King County prosecutors come lie for us. I mean, that should be on their business cards.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Tell us what we want to hear. Tell us what we can use. All kinds of models can come into there. Now we’ll get into the part that would look extremely selfish to, well, detecting McCall to Jason Simmons and the five, four other prosecutors, like Corey Smith. And of course, all the false witnesses are going to make it sound like this. Look at what he says. 1 John 1:4, “We write this to make our joy complete.” Now there’s two ways to look at this. There’s the sinful King County court way, which I mean, ooh, look, everything comes back to Timothy Williams, or everything comes back to John who’s writing this. Because isn’t that what he’s saying, Jacob?

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: 1 John 1:4, right? “We write this to make our joy complete.” So, it’s all about him.

Jacob: Yeah, why are you writing this? Why are you writing all these books? Did you write all these books, John, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, all for yourself to make your joy complete? That’s the prosecutor take.

Timothy: No, I get what you’re right on target. Oh yeah. And all these other scriptures have to do with everything comes back to John. He talks about Jesus over here, right? He talks about fellowship and walking light. We really know why he wants to walk in the light, right? Because it’s all a big control power thing, right? So, his joy is all this super cult-like control clearly, right?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: Well, that’s a satanic way of looking at it. That’s an evil suspicion way looking at it. That’s a dark way of King County courts, prosecutors looking at it. And certainly, those who quote, did not investigate the investigation certainly would have promoted that way that everything came back to Tim Williams without realizing, or I don’t know, maybe someone did realize the Christian walk is one of humility, selflessness, losing one’s own life and attention. Once a pride, all those things, correct?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: So, when he says this, we make this to make our joy complete. He just wants to fellowship with other people who love the living God. Why would that not be joyful? If all of a sudden let’s just go crazy, Jacob, 25 people, God brought them to us and they all were seeking to love God and they’re all willing to walk in the light. Why would we not want to fellowship with them?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Now I understand Mr. Simmons and judge Laurie K. Smith. We don’t have the freedom of association. Well, we don’t have freedom of religion or association, right? We can’t pick and choose who we want to fellowship with because I don’t know why, do you know why they would say that, Jacob? I mean, on a superficial worldly level?

Jacob: No. Their whole court angle was just to set it up. I mean, they wanted the people on the stand to say that kind of stuff because their whole thing was to try to paint us as a cult. That was the whole goal. They’re an evil cult. They control, right? You have to report everything that they do, blah, blah, blah.

Timothy: I hear you. That doesn’t really explain why, but I get you. We write this to make our joy complete. Now let’s read on verse 5. “This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you.” Whoa! He jumps right back into what his personal living dynamic cross crucifying. You got suffering and joy going on the full gospel message. What we have heard from him and declare to you, this isn’t book knowledge, Mr. Simmons. This isn’t, again, Satan’s kind of inspiring this thing, but what was the constant theme? He writes the books. Do you read the books? Everything is about what I’m supposedly writing and doing nothing about a living relationship with God. This is a message we’ve heard from him and declared to you. God is light in him. There is no darkness at all. If you’re going to come to sound doctrine church, which is no more. So let me bring it down. If you’re going to fellowship with me and claim to be a Christian, we’re both going to walk in the light.

“This is a message we’ve heard from him and declared to you: God is light.” There is no other option here. If you like the darkness, if you didn’t even understand this scripture and claim to be a Christian, you’re still walking in darkness because this, this is like the beginning. God is light. To say you have a relationship with the living God is to enter into light and you couldn’t hide anything. If you wanted to, it’s not, not a question of me going around reporting stuff or seeing this or that you’re in the light. There’s no other choice. “God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.” Why would anybody be whining about walking the light with me? If they were walking the light with God.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Because there’s no way that I see everything. And let me even rephrase that better. There’s no way I want to see everything. I couldn’t handle it. I don’t have the, well, I’m nothing kind of thing. “God is light; in him there is no darkness.” So, “If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.’ This is fundamental. It’s solid. You can’t do away with it. You can’t argue. You can stay in the closet. You can hide in darkness. You can do whatever, but this is a solid, absolute thing in Jesus Christ. So that that’s why it’s no big mystery to see people that claim to be Christians who aren’t. Because we’re talking about light, right?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Say you’re in a room full of light. Let’s even do better. A church full of light, right? And all of a sudden somebody walks in, who walks in darkness, they’re bringing darkness in, right? Wouldn’t it be easier to spot them since you’re walking in the light. You can look over here and go, well, they’re walking in darkness because it’s such a contrast.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: That’s all. It’s just, it does. This isn’t rocket science. This is if you’re in relationship with God and you’re walking in the light and somebody comes into my presence says, oh, I’m a Christian, but they’re not walking light. I’m seeing darkness. I’m seeing gray. I’m seeing hiding, not like I’m being super critical or I’m being judgmental or whatever else. It’s just the nature of what light is. I mean, I can explain it one more time. A room full of light, your kids outside playing gets all muddy and dirty. It’s dark, kind of not, not stormy because we weren’t in danger of the children. It’s raining, he’s dark, he’s muddy. Then he comes in and he comes walking in and you go, how’d you get so muddy? And since he’s not walking in the light, is he’s going to deny, right?

Jacob: Correct. He didn’t even know.

Timothy: Quicker, better example. That was a kid’s in a cookie jar, got chocolate chip cookie all over his mouth. And you go, did you get in the cookie jar? And they say, no. Jacob, how hard would that be for you to tell?

Jacob: It’s obvious to tell if he’s been in the cookie jar.

Timothy: Exactly. Because why? He’s walking in the light. All right. Now we’re getting to the beauty of it and the purpose of it. Because the whole implication of the quote was, we tell everything that we do. And so, there’s this dooming, dark gloom of judgmentalism. And you’re only concerned about whether you’re going to hell and you’re going to burn and all the brimstone, right? Isn’t, isn’t that what they’re saying?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Well, Mr. Simmons and judge Lorri K. Smith and the rest of you who refuse to repent, this is the goal. This is the result of walking in the light. And this is what’s in sound doctrine to the degree that everybody walked in the light because I have to preface that this is a choice. Nobody’s forced to walk in the light. Now the light might reveal things they don’t want to see, but nobody’s going to force anybody. Got look, God did not come to force people to love him. Do we have that straight yet Mr. Simmons? This is not King County court where I have to love what the current governor is doing with the law because you have the guns. We’re forced to do so when you go into King County court and judge Lorri K. Smith sides with you and goes, “Oh, yep, stop that conversation, right?” That’s a law that has to be done. That’s not what this is about. There there’s, so you force obedience and you think sound doctrine church is forcing obedience.

It should be totally clear by now that if you don’t want to live this, there’s the door. It’s called the exit sign. In fact, I will walk you out. I’ll carry your things to the car. I’ll encourage you to leave. God does not want anybody in a relationship with him who does not want to be in a relationship. Neither did I. I was never building a large church, which you obviously brought up as a negative thing. I was never interested because why that’s not the humility of God. That’s not for me to choose. This is not about me. It’s about Jesus Christ. 1st John 1:7, “But if we walk in the light,” see not if we report in the light, here’s my report, here’s what I did all day. By the way, what time would you report what you did every day, Jacob?

Jacob: I don’t know.

Timothy: Did we have set times? Like I’m sure there’s proof, right? Because you’d have this timesheet of like, okay. That means around what? 10 o’clock.

Jacob: I was going to say 8:00 p.m.

Timothy: Everybody’s going to have to call who to report everything they did.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: It’s absurd on the face of it. “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light.” Churches have light. There’re all kinds of different light, fluorescent tubes, led, of course, mandated by the federal government because we can’t buy the other. What were those called? Incandescent.

Jacob: Incandescent. Yeah. We can no longer buy those.

Timothy: Nope. No longer buy those black-market territory. It’s everybody comes to criminal. “As he is in the light.” This can’t be the light that you choose Mr. Simmons. And this can’t be the light that I would choose or anybody else. This is his light or it’s no light. You’re either walking in his light or you’re in some type of darkness and you you’re feeling your way around the room and there might be a little nightlight in the corner, but you’re in the darkness, a result of walking in the light. 1st John 1:7, “But if we walk in the light, as he is in light, we have fellowship with one another.” It’s a natural outpouring. Jacob, was there ever a time when people were forced to fellowship?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: Of course not. Why would I, who wants to, well, let’s see what’s a good comparison. Maybe some guys would, but a guy wants to marry a woman, right? And he wants her to be in love with him. I know it’s an old-fashioned notion, but she doesn’t love him. Would he then want to go to her and go, I order you to marry me?

Jacob: No, he would not want that.

Timothy: He wouldn’t want that at all. It would be repulsive in the same way. God doesn’t want anybody walking light who doesn’t want to walk in the light with him. And I don’t want to be around anybody who doesn’t want to walk in the light. But if we walk in the light as he is in light, we have fellowship one another. And guess what happens out of the fellowship, Mr. Simmons. “And the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.” The whole goal, whether you like it or not, of the Christian church is to help people work out their salvation, to be forgiven of all their sins. Correct?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Well, that only happens by walking in the light. I know you don’t see it much, but you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t even go near a church that actually won. In fact, you would prosecute a church that actually walked in the light. But when people walk in the light, his light, the blood of Jesus is made active. That’s why there’s so much discussion and prayer for one another. And this is what’s going on in my life and this is what I’m trying to figure out. And by the way, once you’ve been in Jesus Christ, let’s just say for a couple of years, the gross basic, base motive type sins are gone. We’re down. We’re talking about wrestling out what is God’s will and what should be done in my life. And does God want me to do this over here? And I’m trying to grow over here and pray for me on this. It takes on a much deeper dimension. In other words, somebody comes to Jesus Christ. They’ve been a drug addict. They give up their drugs. Okay, fine. I got that. You get my point that that happens rather quickly.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Or they fall back into the sin. And that’s part of the reason they fall back into sin because they’ll get delivered from say drinking or drug addiction or being a prideful, arrogant prosecutor. And you just kind of stop at that point. There’s no walking in the light because as you walk in the light, the blood of Jesus shows more sins, but we’re talking the blood of Jesus here, which means it’s filled with conviction and mercy. It’s filled with strength. Doesn’t blood carry away the impurities of our body as well as bring in pure things, Jacob?

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Well, that’s what the blood of Jesus is doing. It’s always showing me every day, every hour as blood pumps through my body. Tim Williams isn’t here. Tim Williams, you’re bad here. This needs to go. This is impure. This is unclean. All of that’s always taking place. But then on the flip side, at the same time, he’s giving me nourishment and strength and mercy and grace. And I might be weeping over my sins at the same time. He may be showing me more sins and I go deeper in that, but he will lift me up in due time. That’s the nature of blood. It brings in life as it takes out life. What can I say? Most people don’t want to participate in the sufferings of Jesus Christ so they may have the life of Christ.

Video: Prosecutor Simmons: How did you come to learn those scriptures witness? Through the teachings of sound Doctrine Church and Tim Williams. Prosecutor Simmons: You say the teachings to your understanding has Tim Williams published books witness? Yes. Prosecutor Simmons: About religion false witness lie. Yes. The first day that we went there, the first time we went to sound Doctrine church and we listened to the, you know, he preached a sermon. It was a Wednesday night and afterwards they gave us a series of tapes and a hating for Jesus’ book and a whisper Revival book and a head covering. And we were to go home before the next Sunday and listen to the tapes and start reading the book and let them know what we thought

Timothy: Jacob, did that ever go-on on any level remotely?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: This is not a religion. Okay, let’s back up here and look how sly this is. Prosecutor Simmons, how did you come to learn those scriptures? Well, if you’d read the books and if you look the stuff, you’d understand that I teach and live, that if you’re going to understand scripture clearly, who do you have to go to, Jacob?

Jacob: Jesus Christ.

Timothy: Jesus Christ, you got to go to the living God. It’s called the Holy Spirit. So, how did you come to learn those scriptures? The truthful answer is if they’re a disciple of Jesus and they belong to him is, well, God’s been teaching me and show me in his word. Witness through the teachings of Sound Doctrine Church and Tim Williams. Okay. What can I say again? If you’d actually read the books and did what was in there, you wouldn’t be saying any of the rest of this. Look, if you read my books, if you went through these sermons, if you did all these things, then you couldn’t have fallen into what you’re saying that you fell into. Prosecutor Simmons, you say the teachings to your understanding. Look how we’re going to go for the, has Tim Williams published books? When did that become a crime?

Jacob: I know it’s like a total, like, obviously it’s a setup too. Like he’s just digging and manipulating and twisting for what he wants.

Timothy: Oh, they both have. There’s been, there was so much witness tampering going on in this thing. You bet this is where we’re going to go. I mean, they didn’t have to script it out. You’re on the same page of hating somebody. It’s kind of easy to do.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: You say the teachings, like, okay, to your understanding, meaning are you a moron? What are you saying here? I know I’m being a little bit nitpicky. Has Tim Williams published books? Okay. Well, all right. And that was the, by the way, people, this was a mantra that was repeated over and over again. So that by the time the jury even came down to it, they were really deciding the church was guilty and they, well, I don’t want to go too far in that. All right. Prosecutor Simmons about religion versus what? Romance novels.

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: That’s why this looks so much like a setup. It’s like one little inch at a time. Okay. False witness lie. Yes. Never mind, one of the things you’ll notice with Mr. Simmons, if you look at this, is he always asks a series of questions and sometimes they’re semi unrelated. And then you’re answering the last question, right? It’s just a tactic. It’s an evil tactic. What they’re doing is asking a series of questions. You answer the last question and to the somebody listening that gives credibility to all the other questions. If this was remotely an honest court of law, Simmons would only be allowed to ask one question at a time. You go, did he write the books? Yes. What were the names of those books? But it doesn’t, he so many times, you know what I’m talking about, Jacob, you were there. You filmed the whole thing. He always asks almost a paragraph of questions and they’re never quite complete sentences and you just kind of interject.

So, you’re really answering by getting a, the response he wants in the last question, he’s adding evil suspicions to all the other questions. Does that make sense?

Jacob: That makes sense.

Timothy: Serve on jury duty. If you see this tactic going on, well again, I wouldn’t get in, but if I did and I saw that I just do not guilty because if they’re lying at this point in open court and using these tactics, then you’ve got to know they’ve done it the whole time through. So, there’s no way you can come to a proper conclusion, whether the person on the stand is guilty or innocent. All right. Yes, the first day that we went there, the first time we went to Sound Doctor Church, we listened to, you know, he preached a sermon. Oh yeah. Interesting wording. It was a Wednesday night and afterwards they gave us a series of tapes. Always, see that’s the nature of a false witness. They were witnesses so they can add in layers of truthful aspects, but then frame it as a lie and incorporate all their lies into it. Nobody ever came to Sound Doctrine Church. First of all, it looks like they just showed up at the door, showed up the door, preached a sermon and they were all piled on his books. Isn’t that what they’re saying?

Jacob: Oh, not just at first there was a series of tapes, so a tapes and multiple. Anyways, I’m jumping ahead of the quote there, but.

Timothy: Well, it is kind of, yeah, I don’t want to dig too far. So correct. So, I don’t know what I’m trying to say there. Would you finish what you were saying?

Jacob: Simply that it’s nuts. Like nobody, no church is piling on this kind of material. It’s very common, even in other churches, right? Maybe you’re given a pamphlet or one book or, you know what I mean? Like, oh, this is more about our church or this is more about what we believe. Here’s a book. It’s very common in churches to give somebody something, right? But nobody is piling up. You literally, you’d have to have like a bag or like an arm load, a series of tapes and books and this head covering. Like nobody does that. No church does that.

Timothy: Now, you know why the false witness and Simmons lied. Because everybody that’s in it goes, no church says that they would have said exactly what you said. Because you’re correct.

Jacob: Yes.

Timothy: Well, all of a sudden this is a cult about Tim Williams and everything comes back to him and he’s evil and twisted. Therefore, it’s so out of the norm. Then when you show up for the first time, first sermon, whatever you’re hearing, you get tapes, you get books, you get pamphlets, you get a head covering, which I would have to explain to everybody. And a bunch of sermon tapes and told by the time you get back here on Sunday, let us know what you think. It just never happened. In fact, again, most people that showed up would listen to the sermon and that was pretty much about it. They may want the book or a tracker because it comes up in conversation, but I don’t even think I had them in the building that we could have turned and said, here, you get this. I don’t remember. Did we have even the track thing in the church building?

Jacob: There was definitely materials laying around, but it was never just like there’s a free rack in the salt shaker. There was no giant free rack like that. But I mean, materials were always available. Yeah, If something comes up in conversation, oh yeah, we could totally talk about this and, and that, but every church does that. Every church has materials that they hand out. And you know what?

Timothy: By me not remembering that, that tells you just how important it was to me.

Jacob: Correct.

Timothy: Man, I’m too busy working out with fair and trembling, what to preach and what to say, let alone to be concerned about my, here’s my book, my ministry, what we’re built. But Simmons, if I was going to want to have a big church, would I preach this message?

Jacob: No.

Timothy: I mean, this is what’s so ludicrous about it. On the one hand, I was supposedly a cult, what attracted you to sound doctrine? The negative things he said, the message of the cross, pointing out all my sins that you think that it’s what they’re going to say. That’s why they didn’t have anything to say because they’ve gone to Sound Doctrine Church. There had to at least be a touch of, I need to get some sin cleared up in my life, right?

Jacob: Yeah.

Timothy: All right. This, this is just totally a bogus. This is like perjury. This is, they should be serving jail time along with judge Corey Smith and Simmons. None of this was even close. None of it ever happened. I want to repeat again. And the reason for this is that God is love and no one is going, God is not going to force anyone to love him. He’s not going to force anybody to love him. That’s what Satan does. That’s what King County courts does. That’s not what Sound Doctrine is about. We were about loving God and only God. And if you didn’t want to love God, then go somewhere else. There were plenty of churches to go to. Sound Doctrine church is not like governor Bob Ferguson that I have to obey his personal whims of what he thinks people should or shouldn’t do. This was about a living relationship with a very real God.

Video: Are you familiar with a group called the Sound Doctrine Church? How was it that you came about joining the sound doctrine church? And where was sound doctrine church located? Back then around that time, how many people would you say were members of the church? What was it that drew your family to the church at the beginning? Did your joining the Sound Doctrine Church have any impact on your connection with your family other than Jessica and the daughters we’ve currently talked about? And is Winepress Publishing associated in any way with the Sound Doctrine Church? And with those friends from home school group be members of Sound Doctrine Church? Are you familiar with the Salt Shaker Bookstore? To begin, what is a rebuke? For those of us who don’t understand, what is rebuke and what’s that mean in the context of the church? And when you say fellowship, what does that mean? While you were a member of the Sound Doctrine Church and a member of that community, was it important for you to follow the various teachings and doctrines of the church? What was your understanding of that doctrine? While a member of the Sound Doctrine Church, did your beliefs come from your understanding of the doctrine of the Church? Did you have any neighborhood friends that were not members of Sound Doctrine church, other than just kids and even fathers? And at that time, what was the kind of the leadership? Who was in charge? How did it work? And you say your salvation, was that an important thing for you during Sound Doctrine Church? Do you in the Sound Doctrine Church really celebrate birthdays? How about, was there any particular holiday celebration for Christmas, anything of that nature? Why was it you left Sound Doctrine Church?

Closing: Nothing on the consider podcast should be considered legal or life advice. Each is admonished to seek a holy God and obey by picking up a cross to follow Jesus. The consider podcast www.consider.info.

Washington State Guilty Parties

While not forgetting those who spread slander, prosecutor Jason Simmons and the cut-throat gang caused many to stumble, sin or fall from the faith. Fear for them because they fear not. See Millstone.

The Lord is slow to anger and great in power; the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet. Nahum 1:3

Guilty Parties
Washington State
Legal Corruption
Listen to The Consider Podcast or examine overwhelming evidence on www.consider.info, or www.enumclaw.com

The following is basic information and a short list of the guilty parties involved.

The Washington State court system and its associated legal entities are currently engaged in significant abuses of rights. Right rape is now the normal operating procedure in Washington State.

The Washington State Supreme Court has systematically undermined the rights of those accused of crimes, leading to rampant corruption among prosecutors and law enforcement. One example out of many of the court’s devaluation of individual rights is exemplified by its ruling allowing dogs in the courtroom in order to manipulate juries in favor of the State.

The Supreme Court of Washington State by appealing to emotions rather than facts of a case threw open the door for police and prosecutors to promote wide-spread and deep seated corruptions. City of Enumclaw Police and King County Prosecutors seized upon this lawlessness in the name of the law to engage in a hate crime of false accusations.

As one prosecutor in Washington State publicly stated during jury selection, the process for the prosecution and police resembles a "dog and pony show." Thus it is no shock to witness the degrading lawlessness, ignoring of facts and right rape of others within the legal system.

In the case of King County Superior Court, State of Washington, Plaintiff vs. Malcolm Fraser, Defendant, Case No. 12-1-01886-0 Knt, it’s important to clarify that the true plaintiff is, in fact, the King County Superior Court, State of Washington, against Sound Doctrine Church or Timothy Williams who was never charged with a crime in Enumclaw, Washington.

Washington State prosecutors have employed abusive legal strategies to pursue an unfounded charge designed to eliminate Timothy Williams or Sound Doctrine Church from Enumclaw. The defendant, Malcolm Fraser, has been exploited by King County prosecutors and Enumclaw police to indirectly proxy-prosecute Timothy Williams.

Judge Beth M. Andrus exhibited favoritism towards Prosecutor Rich Anderson, even after reprimanding him for making inappropriate, prejudicial, and offensive comments. She downplayed the wrongful actions of City of Enumclaw Detective Grant McCall, contributing to a narrative intended to discredit the church and its activities in Enumclaw, ultimately leading to the collapse of a business, church, and bookstore while forcing the church to leave the community. Despite being a pastor’s daughter, Ms. Beth M. Andrus demonstrated a shocking lack of Christian values or even legal common sense.

Judge Lori K. Smith worked with King County prosecutors to hinder and deny the defendant’s ability to present a defense. She turned the criminal proceedings into a chaotic "family court" atmosphere that enabled false accusations to undermine justice. Judge Lori K. Smith, allegedly influenced by being named "Woman of the Year," distorted justice to guarantee a guilty verdict against a man. In short, Judge Lori K. Smith was bribed and, seeking to maintain her social standing abused the rights of the accused.

Prosecutor Dan Satterberg assigned five prosecutors specifically to target the church. Prosecutor Leesa Manion who was supported by Satterberg, takes inappropriate pride in being the first Korean woman to hold a position in the prosecutor’s office. Ms. Manion actively endorses the corrupt practices initiated by Satterberg, including reinstating Prosecutor Rich Anderson.

Detective Grant McCall of the City of Enumclaw was implicated in orchestrating a fabricated hate crime. He deleted evidence and fabricated accusations while refusing to investigate the claims of hatred and the actual crime as charged against Mr. Fraser. Detective Grant McCall and King County Prosecutors knew that a proper inquiry and investigation would expose the falsehoods. King County prosecutors obstructed and suppressed any effort to initiate a proper investigation.

The prosecutor team included Prosecutors Mark Larson, Lisa Johnson, Nicole Weston, Rich Anderson, and Jason Simmons.

This is not an exhaustive list of those who have facilitated, protected, and perpetuated self-serving corruption within the Washington State court system.

In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. Acts 17:30

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