Leadership Part 1
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Leadership Part 1, Prosecutor Simmons Bible Study
Timothy: Prosecutor Jason Simmons and Judge Laurie Kay Smith thought they already knew the answer, but we’ll go ahead and answer the questions truthfully.
Intro: Welcome to the Consider podcast, where we examine today’s wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.
Timothy: Jacob, you were assigned to be in the courtroom, video recording everything for, what, 28 days, right?
Jacob: Something like that. I don’t remember the exact day, but it was a good chunk. Although there was a few days, I wasn’t there, but I was there for most of it.
Timothy: Oh yeah. But it was a good, almost a month, I guess if you count February month.
Jacob: Sure.
Timothy: Oh, go ahead.
Jacob: No, no, no. Go ahead.
Timothy: Prosecutor Simmons wanted to know, well, he’s asking questions. He thinks he already has the answers. So, they’re not questions like I want to know their questions. Like, I am sure all of this is evil kind of question. I’m going to trap you and put you in a corner and expose you for the vile criminal you are, uh, though I wasn’t charged with any crimes, right?
Jacob: This is true.
Timothy: And the things that he was accusing me of are not crimes.
Jacob: No, they’re not. Yeah. They’re not even crimes. There’s nothing illegal.
Timothy: In fact, isn’t it legally protected to be in leadership of a church?
Jacob: Supposedly that’s what they say.
Timothy: That’s what they say. His questions were, what was the kind of leadership? How was it? And he doesn’t talk in complete sentences. So, I’m just reading what he said, “Who was in charge and how did it work?” Well, we’re going to answer that question and begin that process. Now we’re going to swing back probably to fellowship and what that means. So, we’re pausing here in a moment. We’re talking about leadership because we’re going to come back to it and explain all of that in context. The thing that King County courts do not like very much at all. Jacob, go ahead and play the file and let’s begin the discussion.
Video Clip: It’s time for some serious clarity. It’s time to establish a solid factor to it’s time for facts of evidence and facts of reliable truths. Timothy Williams is the complete and total opposite of prosecutor. Jason Simmons is lies, not just opposite with some shades of gray, but opposites as white is from black or light is from darkness. Acts 2018 through 21. “You know how I live the whole time I was with you from the first day I came into the province of Asia. I serve the Lord with great humility and with tears, although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews. You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you, but I’ve taught you publicly. And from house to house, I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.” The consider podcast, examining today’s wisdom, folly, and madness, www.consider.info.
Timothy: Jacob, how long have you known me?
Jacob: Technically my whole life.
Timothy: And that would be roughly without giving your exact age.
Jacob: Oh, well, 20 years. Let’s do that.
Timothy: Okay. Let’s do 20 years. You knew me when I was just beginning quote unquote leadership. And that’s what we’re talking about here is leadership. Now everybody needs to understand very clearly every single thing. The prosecutor Simmons and judge Lori K Smith and the gang of five paid me to be, I am the complete opposite of, correct?
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: What would you say without going too deep at just the moment, what would be my style of leadership?
Jacob: Style of leadership.
Timothy: There are all kinds of leadership. I know the person doing the hate crime tried to pay me as being like Hitler, because I’ve studied some World War II books. So that was one of the slanders, although they went around. Detective Graham McCall said that everything came back to me. I mean, he knew that for sure because of his non-investigation and self-righteous Baptist doctrine that believed only the King James version of 1611 with these and thou is the appropriate Bible to read so that every Bible verse I’m reading at, and we’re looking at here today is an apostasy to Enumclaw detectives and police.
Jacob: Well, we could, to steal from detective McCall. I think, the complete opposite. Yeah. Everything did not point to you. Everything pointed back to Jesus, to the Lord, to living for him. That is the truth.
Timothy: And even more so, meaning how did leadership work, Mr. Simmon, the reason I’m kind of hesitating is it’s a poured-out situation. It’s not leadership like King County prosecutors. There wasn’t a hierarchy of I’m at the top and then you had vice leadership and then vice leadership under that leadership and then that leadership that. This isn’t King County’s prosecutor’s office where you have the head elected prosecutor and then you have the minions that go on the line. Of course, the women are all on top in terms of hierarchy and authority and power because they’re women, which means they’re intrinsically more moral than men. go ahead.
Jacob: I’ll say, I’ll tell you a quick story because you probably don’t even remember this, but I was quite young actually, right? So, I’m like, I’m like an early kind of teenager and I’ll make the story short. This is, yeah, there was no like Uber closed off. You could never talk to you or never interact with you. There was all I can remember because I was actually quite young, right? There was a prayer meeting. It wasn’t even like a prayer meeting, a decision need to be made. And so, within the church, right, it was, had to do with the ministry and what to move forward on what to do. And so, you let anybody who was there and I was even just like a little teenager, a little snotty nose, teenage, anybody who was there, they’re like, okay, let’s, let’s go ahead and pray about this. Whoever was in the room, there was no like, well, you need to leave because I don’t know, you haven’t been in sound doctrine long enough or something. So, we all had, we prayed right then and there. And then everyone went around the room to share what they felt like they heard from the Lord. And I just have this memory because it’s a vivid memory that there was just some, like, I’m saying this, I don’t know who it was. It was like a random person, like somebody who literally was just kind of like hanging around Sound Doctrine, right? And like, he was included in the prayer meeting. He was allowed to like say what he felt like he heard from the Lord. It was yeah. So, this whole concept that there was this hierarchy leadership that looked down on everyone and you were the evil cult leader is just lies because I was there and I saw that like everybody was included. There was no you making the decisions. It was literally, you could go around the room and share what you felt like you heard the Lord say.
Timothy: Correct. Always. Let’s look at Philippians chapter 2 verse 17. Philippians 2 verse 17. Go ahead and read that when you get there to Jacob.
Jacob: “But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you.”
Timothy: Philippians 2:17 describes what leadership and by, and we might as well say I was in leadership, I was probably, if you wanted to rank it, which I wouldn’t want to do because it’s not the name that that’s not to describe what it was. I’ll tell you what it was. It’s shepherding, which is different than leadership. I follow the great shepherd, which is Jesus Christ. So, I’m being made and molded into his image. So, it’s shepherding mean. You’ve got a whole flock of people and I’m part of the flock, but whatever. I’ve been appointed as, I don’t know, head sheep or whatever. As you move along, the whole group moves along together. It’s not, you don’t see a committee of sheep, do you?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: And, but you find them corralled or moved in a certain direction, but it’s always done as a group and it’s done in such a way as to protect the flock. Are they called a flock by the way?
Jacob: Yeah, I guess. I think, yeah, it’s called a flock. Yeah.
Timothy: A flock of sheep. So, and it’s all done in a way that’s protected, but moving in a certain direction. It’s Philippians 2:17, just as Jesus was poured out for us in the same way I was poured out, it was a constant, Simmons, you have no clue, actually no frame of reference, just how much work and life force is given away every single day to shepherd God’s people. It is not an easy thing. It was beyond my power. I had to cry out to the Lord. I needed his strength. I needed his wisdom. I needed his love. And I had to grow at the same time. It wasn’t like I was baptized and then made into this leader, just ready to go. God’s crushing me. God’s making me carry my cross at the same time. I’m supposed to be leading other people in the same direction to him for which he’s going to crucify them and put them on the cross and transform them and have them perfect holiness. In short, I’m doing the same thing that I’m just showing them that they’re doing and God has chosen how he’s going to arrange the body. And I was placed in that position of leadership.
It was a style of shepherding, not a corporate kind of thing, not an authority kind of thing. Although we’ll get into it. There is a certain amount of authority and the reason why I’m laying this down now is because we’re going to get into specifics where Paul and scripture talks about leadership. There was an authority there, but the danger here is, of course, and this is exactly what Simmons and judge law or Katie Smith did is they take their dark mind, their evil heart and all the lies and the wickedness that they do. And they interpret what leadership is. So, the lingo can sometimes be the same, but there is no consistency. There’s no agreement. It’s light from darkness. Am I making clear what we’re about to approach Jacob?
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: Philippians 2:17, “But even if I’m being poured out like a drink offering.” Everybody was constantly taking from me. I’m not whining. I’m just telling you what it is. It was a constant take from Tim. I need advice. What should I do? What does this scripture mean? How does this apply? What should be done over here? It was a constant ever, never ending need, need, need. There were not sheep coming to me, filling me with the spirit of that’s just not the nature of what it was, but even if I’m being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith. In other words, the sheep need attention. They need wisdom. They need guidance. I need to, I had to, I was preaching three sermons a week. I’m not whining. I’m not complaining. I’m just telling you what it was. It is an exhausting business and I have no other word for it. Business, labor of love to shepherd a church. And that’s why Paul says, “I am glad and rejoice with all of you.” At least that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Any thoughts, Jacob, before we move on?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Let’s go to Mark chapter 10, verse 42. Then Jesus called them together, the apostles and said, “You know, that those who regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lorded over them.” That’s you, Mr. Simmons, that’s you, judge Lori K. Smith, you lorded over us. We’re prosecutors. We’re police. We’re the ones in authority. I have the gavel. I’m woman of the year. So, when you come into my courtroom, you stand up because I’m the honorable woman of the year, judge Lori K. Smith, and these are my minions. This is Jason Simmons over here. We’re buds and we’re going to nail you. Literally, we’re going to nail you. You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lorded over them. Is it not held over us all the time that they are an authority? They know what’s best, how you should arrange your family, how the church should be done. Is that not true, Jacob?
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: It goes on to say, “In their high officials, exercise authority over them.” I like that word “exercise”, because what you bump into are these officials that for no real reason, they just say, this is the way it is, or this is what you have to do. They like to exercise. Think of people that exercise, go running or do pushups. I know some people that just enjoy exercising, right?
Jacob: Correct. Yeah.
Timothy: Well, that’s exactly what the officials over us, they lord over us and they just enjoy flexing their muscles. You have to do it this way. That’s what the rule is. You have to pay the fine. We don’t have to tell you we can keep this in the dark. We hear it constantly and they just like, even if it’s just a simple basic request, like, tell me this over here. We heard back from the judges in King County saying, well, we don’t have to tell you. Okay. Well, really? You just can’t be human. You just can’t answer the question. Didn’t say you couldn’t answer the question that you said you didn’t have to.
Jacob: Didn’t have to. Yeah.
Timothy: So, all the humanity is drained out of King County courts. All the humanity is drained out of judge Lori K Smith. Certainly, all the humanity was drained out of the prosecutors. They would not listen. It was a lot of this came down to a power play. We didn’t bow down to them like the rest of Washington state. We were submissive, but we didn’t bow down and they didn’t like it. And they were going to make sure that we knew they didn’t like it, right? Well, Mr. Simmons, that’s not how the leadership at Sound Doctrine Church worked. Mark 10:43 says, Jesus says, “Not so with you.” It is the complete opposite of who you are, Mr. Simmons and who you think we were. “Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant.” I was at the mercy of everybody who needed and wanted attention. And let me tell you, it was great. Not only that in the Lord, I am responsible before Jesus Christ to present everybody perfect in Jesus Christ. Do you know how much effort that takes? Mr. Simmons? Well, of course not. Most people in the church didn’t know how much effort that takes. Right, Jacob?
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: I mean, you’ve got a congregation. I’ll go wild here. I’ll go crazy. Because Simmons likes numbers. Let’s say at one point we probably had a peak of 30, maybe 40. Every single one of those individuals I was responsible for presenting them perfect in Jesus Christ, protecting them in Jesus Christ, preaching to them in Jesus Christ, laying down my life for them. That means every person that came to me and believe me, they all did some multiple times during the day. There are weaker parts of the body that need constant attention. And I needed to know from the Lord, how to serve them, what to say, what to do, what not to do, what to say, okay, it’s time to go here and everybody’s at a different growth spot. No good parent treats every child the same. You might have a 4-year-old and you might have a 14-year-old. Would you treat them the same? Jacob?
Jacob: No, very different.
Timothy: Well, actually in today’s cases, I imagine the 14-year-olds, more like the four-year-old, but the side issue from that little point, each one is treated different according to what their maturity or like a maturity, their skills or who they are or what they do or what they like or what they don’t like. It goes down and the situations are coming, not to mention being persecuted, attacked, letting the word of God form in them. You get the idea, Mr. Simmons, this is a poured-out situation that is beyond my effort, my wisdom, my strength. And so, when you say what kind of leadership was, you are playing the fool. You have no clue, nor understanding, nor did you seek it out. And those that were telling you the lies out there knew that you had no interest in the truth because it is a labor of love for Jesus Christ. And if it’s not, that is totally worthless. Not so with you. Instead, Jesus said, “Whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant.” What’s the style of leadership wasn’t Mr. Simmons? I was a slave to everybody, a slave to everybody.
Verse 44, “And whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. For even the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” I’m being made in the image of Jesus Christ, Mr. Simmons. Therefore, I’m a slave to all. And you’re going to see that reflected as we go through the scriptures. Anything else with that, Jacob?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Well, let’s go back again to Acts chapter 20, verse 18. We kind of heard that in the clip before I want to read through it again, man, we are moving so fast, but whatever, been forced to do it. Acts chapter 20, verse 18, “When they arrived, he said to them: “You know how I live the whole time I was with you.” Jacob, well, there’s no way that I’m perfect. We’re not even, or you think you’re perfect. Why ask me that stupid question? I’m being driven to the ground in front of the living God. He comes to me day in and day out, hour after hour, showing me my weakness. That is the nature of it. I’m not a prosecutor that has a judge that puffs me up, pats me on the back, winks at me when I do bad things and protects me. I have a judge who says, “Oh, okay, Timothy, I can’t use this and I can’t use that over here. And besides that, you need to mature up over here and we need to take care of this over here and you’re coming to me pretty soon because you’re getting older. So, I’m going to just crush you a little bit more in this area today.” That’s the kind of Lord that I worship, that I serve and above all, I love. “You know how I live the whole time I was with you.” Jacob, has my life been consistent?
Jacob: Yes, very consistent.
Timothy: Have there been these huge ups and downs and what, oh, I fall into sin over here. And then I come back here and righteous. Have you seen these giant swings of anything that would produce what we would call inconsistency?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: My life is solidly consistent. Do I stumble, do I make mistakes? Of course, that’s part of it, but it’s extremely consistent. “You know how I live the whole time I was with you.” Why do you think these false witnesses had to become false witnesses? Because my life is very consistent. If I’d had one thing that was just out there or up and down or greed or this or whatever, don’t you think they’d have made hay of that?
Jacob: Oh, sure. Yeah. The specifics. I think we had talked briefly, however many weeks or days ago. Yeah. Like nobody brought forth, where was any specifics that like, well, leadership, he did this, like nobody even had any specifics. Like there was a similar to Jesus, right? When they dragged Jesus in and they just, it says like, they’re making up stories about them. They’re just making up things because there was, they don’t even have anything.
Timothy: If I was this authoritarian bully, nobody brought up one single incident.
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Not one example. And according to Simmons or best, I was that consistently. It all came back to me, whatever I said, when don’t you think people go, well, he said this and this and this, and he did it this way and this way. And we were forced this way. Where was the specifics?
Jacob: Yeah, that there were none.
Timothy: No, because they don’t exist. Now that I mentioned, of course they may make up a few, but that’s beside the point.
Jacob: Sure.
Timothy: Simmons, this is what leadership looks like. What style, what manner it’s Acts chapter 20, verse 19, Mr. Simmons, this is who I am in terms of leadership, Jacob, I’m going to let you read that and then I’m going to expound on that just a little bit more.
Jacob: Acts chapter 20, verse 19. “I serve the Lord with great humility and with tears, although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews.”
Timothy: That’s it in a nutshell. Literally I could, if I had to recount my life and I’m not about to do that, that’s it there, “I serve the Lord with great humility.” If you see boldness in me, if you see me rebuking somebody with authority, if you see me not playing games, it comes from great humility with tears. Do not be a fool to think that I’m not in the prayer closet, weeping over a lot of things, including you. “I serve the Lord with great humility and with tears, although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews.” Do you not think one of the reasons I was fully prepared for what King County courts were going to do, because I’ve been tested constantly with plots really from the day I was baptized and God started moving, which before you ever got there, Mr. Simmons, I’d already decades of being tested this test over here and this plot over here, and I don’t like you here, and I heard all this over here and they’d all come in here and they’d all, oh, I think I got a question here. I could give you story after story after story. If you think this is a joke, it was a severe test, not just one test, lots of plots. Don’t you think they’re plotting now? I mean, literally, do you not think, oh, what can we do to him now? That’s just part of serving Jesus Christ. Acts chapter 20, verse 20, when we talk about my sermons, Jacob, have you ever seen me hesitate pause? Yeah, I don’t want to say this. This will be too tough. Oh, this will be offensive. I could lose my job.
Jacob: No, definitely not.
Timothy: No hesitation. Once I know something’s to be preached in the Lord, it’s a done deal. Every single day, Mr. Simmons, when I would get up to the pulpit, I would say to myself, this may be the last sermon I ever preached. Do you not think these podcasts that are being done, I consider everyone could be the last one. Acts chapter 20, verse 20, “You know that I have not hesitated,” Paul says, “To preach anything that would be helpful.” There wasn’t anything that was preached that wasn’t helpful to them. It didn’t build my ministry. It didn’t build my reputation. It didn’t come back to me. It was for their benefit. Go, you won’t do it, but go listen to all the sermons. How do they benefit me? Jacob, how did these sermons benefit me?
Jacob: They most certainly do not.
Timothy: It’s a benefit to me would be essentially just to shut up or get on here and go, we’re in the last days. Have you noticed that, Jacob?
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: And bad times are coming. Blessed ones, we need to just rely on the Lord. And whenever I’m down, I go to this particular happy scripture over here. It says, happy, happy, be happy and trust Jesus, happy and all. I’m blessed, happy. Wouldn’t that be what I preach?
Jacob: That would be, yeah. If you want it to be comfortable.
Timothy: Correct. I wouldn’t write the, remember, I write the books, Mr. Simmons, you may have forgotten, I write the books. I wouldn’t title my books or even write the things I wrote.
Jacob: You have the books.
Timothy: I’m just, I’m sorry. I’m interrupting you. What were you saying?
Jacob: No, no, no. I’m just doing like a, I’m just, I’m just like throwing out the stuff he was talking about. I’m not actually, okay. Just like Moses, Moses got nothing. Moses served the Lord. Moses poured himself out. Moses wrote all the books, the 12 Commandments, the law, a lot of the law.
Timothy: Actually, just to correct you, Jacob, it was 10 Commandments.
Jacob: Oh, 10. Okay. Sorry.
Timothy: Oh man. How could you, you’re an error. I’m reporting you to the apostasy group.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: Go ahead.
Jacob: But, and then Moses climbed the mountain and died. He never got anything. All he did was pour himself out constantly for the Israelites and the people. And that was it, AKA serving the Lord. But yeah, so yeah, but just like Moses, all of the things Moses did, did not benefit himself at all. He got nothing is the same with you. You pour out your life, you give to people, give, give, give, give. And yeah, you didn’t get anything. There was no helicopters. There was no limousines. There was no wealth and prosperity doctrine. You didn’t get anything.
Timothy: And there was no happy ending to this thing. In fact, Moses didn’t even get what he was after, which was to go into the promised land, God brought him under judgment. So, it’s not that he didn’t get anything. He got less than what he was after.
Jacob: Oh, sure. Yeah. Well then, yeah, but well, I wouldn’t even say, I guess it’s what he was after, but he still, he wanted it because it came from the Lord. But when the Lord said no, then he didn’t push.
Timothy: He was content.
Jacob: Yeah, he was content.
Timothy: Exactly. He loved God more than the promised land. And that’s what God is looking for. “You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you, but have taught you publicly and house to house.” Did not fit everything that I did.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: Didn’t get to sit at home. Didn’t get growing up. The reputation among pastors is they preach a sermon on Sunday and they’re golfing on Saturday with other pastors and it’s a cushy kind of life.
Jacob: Sure.
Timothy: Okay. Jacob, when’s the last time I played golf?
Jacob: Never.
Timothy: When’s the last time I had a vacation?
Jacob: Never.
Timothy: Exactly. Never. It was a constant pouring out publicly and from house to house. It was, in other words, it never stopped. When I didn’t phone would ring at night, people called the door. I need prayers here again. I am not whining, complaining if I, in fact, if God said, go play around a golf, I’d say, I don’t want to go play golf. Is there a reason for this? If he wanted me to play golf, because I got to meet somebody out there, cause that’s where the other pastors are or the lawyers are or the judges are. And I bought that one. Then I’d go play golf. But otherwise, I have no interest. I have a heart. Nobody’s going to believe me anyway. “You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful.” If you want the truth, come to me. I’m going to tell you, and I’ve taught you publicly, and from house-to-house. Simmons, you could have showed up at church anytime to see for yourself. In fact, we pleaded with you to do so, but yeah, you don’t want to come down and get your hands actually dirty with the truth.
Acts chapter 20, verse 21. “I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance.” Jacob, have I been, can see he’s summarizing what he’s preaching. Is there anything inconsistent with this statement that I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ?
Jacob: No, that’s very consistent and true.
Timothy: All right, let’s press on to 2 Corinthians chapter 7, verse 1. 2 Corinthians 7:1 again, we’re looking at leadership and answering Simmons questions that, which he doesn’t want the answer for can understand what I’m going to tell him, but we’re going to tell somebody who might have ears to hear. 2 Corinthians 7:1, “Since we have these promises,” let’s not just pass over that too fast. You see Mr. Simmons and judge Lori K. Smith; everything was predicated on build upon the grand promises of God. Forgiveness, love, joy, happiness, paradise, being with God, truthfulness, the truthfulness, righteousness, holiness. Those are the promises of God. So, all preaching, all activity, all pouring myself out had to do with those promises of God to put it in another terminology, I preached the promises of God. “Since we have these promises,” that is always the foundation. And when you find these people, these false witnesses whining and complaining and grumbling, it’s because they turn their backs on the promises of God and they know they have turned their backs on the promises of God. And when a man or a woman turns their backs on the promises of God, there is no other recourse. There’s no other promise they can go to. There’s no other hope that they can go to. They are in a hopeless situation. Any comments, Jacob?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: “Since we have these promises,” and look at these words, “Dear friends.” He didn’t have to write that dear friends. Remember, this is about fellowship, Mr. Simmons, fellowship in heaven. All right. This is the message. “Let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.” That’s what I preached. That’s what I live. That’s what I grew in. Don’t think that I got baptized, came to Jesus Christ, did a little Bible study. I’m not like everybody else or it just stopped there.There’s been a whole purification my life. Let me give you an example. Jacob, can you see can you think of where I’m going with this? Well, give me an idea where you purify yourself from something in body and spirit?
Jacob: What do you mean? Were you to give an example of purifying?
Timothy: Yeah.
Jacob: Of both body? Well, you mentioned one earlier, which is not lying. That would be a good way to purify.
Timothy: Good. I’m thinking of the dreaded Christmas.
Jacob: Oh, The dreaded. Oh, yes, the dreaded Christmas where you speak, there was no Christmas trees and there was no Christmas lights. Oh, well, what was the term like traditional? Yeah, I gave it but like the traditional Christmas. Yes, Mr. President.
Timothy: Yeah, Mr. Simmons. You see you whined about Christmas. We didn’t do Christmas like the rest of everybody else.
Jacob: Or birthdays.
Timothy: Well, okay, I know I didn’t want to go too far with it, but I was trying to give one example. Maybe just one more out of the blue. Well, let’s see, man. What would we purify ourselves from? Oh, I know a Christmas tree a fat Santa, a skinny Santa. All the crudeness of the Santa movies, the presence that going on. We purify ourselves from that, Mr. Simmons and judge Lori K Smith and then it goes, it gets worse. I’m saying there from Simmons perspective, So, it’s evil to give to the poor. It’s evil not to have a self-centered birthday You know the fact that we purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit that would be dress, that would be tattoos. We go down the line and get a lot of nice serious cold responses with this. What are we supposed to do? Perfecting holiness. I don’t have time to go into that today but think about that we are to be holy in Jesus Christ in everything that we do. Right Jacob? But then we’re to take that holiness that we’re Participating in the holiness of being obedient in everything. And by the way holiness means separate from. So, I’m separate from all the wickedness and the vile and the lying and the game playing. Again, am I well known for playing word games as far as trying to cover stuff up or to trap people?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: No. Enemies will say that because they’re trapped by the truth, but I’m not trapping them That’s there. Anyway, I’m getting sidetracked. Perfecting holiness. Let me ask you Simmons. We’re to be holy and all that we do I mean, that’s just the nature of following Jesus, right? Wouldn’t that be true judge Laurie Kay Smith that we’re supposed to be holy? Explain to me Why don’t you come on the podcast and explain to all of us what perfecting holiness means? Not just being holy, you can explain that to us. Then go on to explain to us, well, how do you perfect holiness? Jacob, I’m not gonna ask you to explain it, because I want to hear what they have to say. And you do this out of what? What does it say Jacob, perfecting holiness out of what?
Jacob: Reverence for God.
Timothy: Reverence for God. Did anybody try to be holy out of reverence for me Jacob?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: No, never nobody. So, when everything came back to me that that’s just absurd. I mean, it is absurd as again as we talked about earlier, that is black from white out of reverence for God. A lot of men will try and live a good life or a moral life, but it’s not out of reverence for God. Reverence means there’s a holy fear. So, Simmons when you go, so were you concerned with your salvation at Sound Doctrine Church? Yeah, of course we were concerned. It’s out of reverence for a holy God for which we must all give an account, for every lie that we say, for every false Accusation that we say, for every little twisting. And I mean, let me give one example in perfecting holiness. I strive to always be truthful about every situation Jacob, right? But I’m hindered by my like of knowledge of words and definitions or clarity of my own mind. So, you take a holy truth, let’s say but then you realize, man, I could have said this better over here. It doesn’t mean you were lying. It means you keep refining. Well, what is the truth? What exactly is there? That’s why when we discuss and you go, well, it wasn’t exactly that way. We go back and forth because we’re trying to perfect the truth. We’re trying to get down to what is holy in that situation. What was the real meaning? What was going on? What were the events? Is taking that which is already holy that which is already truthful and refining it. So, it’s even more truthful and communicated in such a way both in heart and a mind and in speech. Out of reverence for God.
I never had anybody come to me and go, yeah, I really want to be holy because out of reverence for you. I mean that didn’t, I’m pounding on that, but right.
Jacob: Correct, that never happened.
Timothy: All right. Go to 2 Corinthians chapter 7 verse 2 and you can accept this is a solid truth. Mr. Simmons. A solid truth. Yes, Judge Laurie K Smith, this is the truth and had you presented it the truth to the jury? This would have been their conclusion. Go ahead.
Jacob: 2 Corinthians 7:2, “Make room for us in your hearts. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have exploited no one.”
Timothy: Jacob, and you’re before God with these answers. This isn’t like, we’ll just answer because you think…
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: You know that.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: Because you hate me, right?
Jacob: What do you mean I hate you?
Timothy: Jesus said, you got to hate your brother.
Jacob: Oh, well, yes, correct. I know that the Lord sees all, knows all and hears everything we say. So, when I say this, Lord’s would judge me for anything I say that was true or untrue.
Timothy: That is correct. And you hate me enough in Jesus Christ that you’re not gonna seek to please me in a man kind of way.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: And you’ll declare.
Jacob: Oh, yeah, I would not sit here and what is it? I don’t know what? I can’t even think of word. or puff you up. Yeah, puff you up. Oh, great is you. You know scripture says, a man is tested by the praise given him. I’ve never contested in yet.
Jacob: Oh yeah.
Timothy: In fact, I just kind of left, it’s like. All right, have I ever and all the time that you’ve known me exploited anybody?
Jacob: Absolutely never.
Timothy: Have I wronged anybody?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: And have I ever, ever corrupted anyone?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Let’s move on then. 2 Corinthians 1:12 and as you go there, keep in mind had I wronged somebody? How about the chance to repent and to make it right? Oh, that little tidbit. Anyway, 2 Corinthians 1:12. Now, here’s one of these words. Mr. Simmons gonna trap you up. I mean, it will being the style of leadership and the style of prosecutors that King County is and the darkness, this is rich fodder here. And had you read the books or actually listen some, you could have gone there. You could have gone here. 2 Corinthians 1:12, “Now this is our boast.” Read that again for him Jacob, so he can grab on to that word and run with it. What did I just read?
Jacob: Now this is our boast.” This will tickle his ears. A boast.
Timothy: Boast, he’s evil, he’s wicked, it all comes back to him. He’s the one in charge. He’s the big banana, right? He’s proudful, boastful, he’s bragging, he’s a hypocrite He just told everybody else not to brag not to boast, but what’s he getting ready to do? Boast.
Jacob: Boast.
Timothy: Now, this is our boast. What Simmons cannot understand, will not understand, does not want to understand is that you can boast through the humility of Jesus Christ. Remember, this is a man serving with what, tears being poured out? Great humility and brokenness. It is a boast in humility. Wow. If he could even get the concept, I imagine the light bulbs are flashing like, what, what, what, what?
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: As if he wanted to know. But it is possible. You don’t believe it. You don’t see it. Judge Laurie K. Smith would go, whoa, we got him good. She’d get to do her little quiet, sweet voice, smile. Yeah, I’m going to allow that questioning. Yeah, let’s go for that. Your Honor, the defense says, “What’s that got to do with the person that’s being charged? Supposedly they did this crime and they went up these stairs and did all these things. What difference does it make whether Tim Williams boasts or not?” I’m going to allow it. You can keep it short, Mr. Simmons, but I’m going to allow it because we’re looking at the behavior that has to do with what?
Jacob: With what, yeah.
Timothy: I can’t even make sense of it. Now this is our boast. Bingo. You got me. I’m trapped. I know where to go. Except to the gospel and to the truth. All right. It gets worse than that. Mr. Simmons, hang on. Take some notes here because the next time you put another church on trial, you’ve got some good, good info. Look at what he says, “Our conscious testifies that we conducted ourselves in the world.” He’s boasting about how righteous he is. He’s boasting about how holy he is. He’s boasting about his humility. And he’s saying, my conscience is clear, my conscience is holy. Our conscious testifies that we have conducted ourselves in the world and especially in our relationships with you in the holiness and sincerity that are from God. You got him. 10 years to life, right, Jacob? In fact, worse than that, all his friends that are on trial, they now have to serve time because he boasted.
Jacob: What do you mean, they have to serve time?
Timothy: Remember that? In other words, we had Malcolm Frazier on trial.
Jacob: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Timothy: But it’s all my questions and my books and what I wrote and how leadership worked and how the church is arranged and what went on and what we did over here and Christmas and birthdays and all that. And that’s why Malcolm Frazier is going to jail. Malcolm Frazier is in prison because we gave to the poor on Christmas.
Jacob: Yup.
Timothy: And that’s not an exaggeration, that’s the facts.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: So here we go. Paul’s boasting that his conscience is better than, well, let me tell you something, Mr. Simmons, in the humility of Jesus Christ and the humility that comes from his brokenness, the humility that comes from tears and crying out to God, in the power of his grace that crucifies pride, a man can be given humility that comes from the throne room of God. In fact, just so you know, we don’t have time to look at it today. To keep Paul from being prideful, he was given a demon. That’s how powerful. Look, you know what, Mr. Simmons and Judge O’Hare Smith, do me a favor. Go into the prayer closet. And you think this is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Ask God to humble you for the next three years. Really, if this is nothing, if this is not believable, you get into the prayer closet, bend your knees and say, Lord, you know, we think Tim Williams is just full of it. Why don’t you show us whether we can be humbled by you or not? I’m pausing. I want to give you a chance to go do that. Turn it off right now. Stop listening. Go into your anywhere, wherever you’re at, doesn’t matter. God honor the prayer. May not lead to holiness, but you’ll know one day you will be humble, but it may be too late if you don’t repent.
All right. “We have conducted ourselves in the world and especially in our relations with you, in the holiness and sincerity that are from God. We have done so not according to worldly wisdom, but according to God’s grace.” There is power in everything I’m telling you. And this is extremely true. And you, Mr. Simmons, have made a colossal mistake by putting Malcolm Frazier in prison and you will pay dearly for it. 2 Corinthians 1:13. He goes on to say, “For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand.” Jacob, am I abundantly clear?
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: Do I do, the Greek says this over here, Hebrew says this, and if we jumped through these three vowels over here, and if we look at these little outlines and I saw an article today that the Oscars were all messianic type symbols and the church was all excited. Oh yeah. We see three. What is your point? Of course, the world is…
Jacob: Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Oh, the Oscars. Yeah. They’re evil. Yeah. Duh.
Timothy: Yeah, totally. Why even waste your time?
Jacob: Why do we, what?
Timothy: Why does that require discernment or excitement?
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: Yeah. Of course.
Jacob: I knew it all along. Like, okay.
Timothy: I know. Let’s go to James chapter 3, verse 1. You see, Mr. Simmons, we are not, or at least I’m not, or I were, I don’t know what, I don’t know where am I at now, Jacob. It’s like you took care of the church. Not a problem. You scattered that. That’s your millstone and quite a few millstones actually better than a millstone were put around you and tied around you and you’re thrown into the sea than did what you and judge Laurie K. Smith and your four other cronies did and all the other subgroups and all the good deed people and everybody else that supported all the lying and all the stuff that went on. You see, Mr. Simmons, we’re not like prosecutors. We’re not a privileged criminal class. Our things are not buried. They’re not covered. We serve a living God who before his throne right now, our folly and our sins are hidden things that men cannot see are present with him. He can see them all. Night is not night to the God that I serve is if light and James chapter 3, verse 1 provides a very sober promise.
So, when you want to know what kind of leadership was, it was a fearful leadership, a leadership that is afraid, a leadership that knows it will be judged, but not just judge like the average Christian, whatever that means. Jacob, go ahead and read James chapter 3, verse 1.
Jacob: “Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.”
Timothy: It’s too late for me, but I can’t stand before the Lord and go, I wasn’t teaching. What are you talking about? Not me. I can’t get out of that. I don’t know. You probably could squeeze out of that. What do you think, Jacob?
Jacob: Yeah, I don’t know.
Timothy: “Not many of you should presume to be teachers,” really. So, yeah, I’m laughing like I’m going to put on my door head pastor, main teacher, the big banana kind of routine, right? Don’t presume that because why I’m facing strict judgement, more strict than anybody else. It’s not a boast. That’s not like and I’ve heard passages that, well, I’ll be judged more strictly and you fool. You’re boasting about being judged more strictly. Well, okay, you will be. But that’s not the most intelligent thing to go around saying that’s going to happen to you. It’s like you get quiet, Mr. Simmons. When I read this particular passage, this isn’t like, I don’t know, Jake, I didn’t go around announcing, well, yeah, I’m a teacher, so I’m going to be judged more strictly, right?
Jacob: Correct. No.
Timothy: It’s a fearful thing to contemplate. It quiets the soul. It causes me to slow down, to contemplate. To scripture says, “Judge myself so that I don’t come under judgement,” and this is a constant thing that how can I explain that when you’re serving other people? It’s in a constant state of fear and trembling. Granted, there’s the peace of Jesus Christ, there’s the grace of God, all that’s there. But there’s also the trembling. What are the right words to say, what should I do or not do, what will benefit them or not benefit them? What’s really going on behind the scenes? What are they really saying? What are their real needs over here? How do I draw them closer to you, Lord? Answer those questions for me, Mr. Simmons. If you were in leadership, how would you approach Judge Lori K. Smith and go, how do I present her more perfect in Jesus Christ? What is it that she’s really saying? What’s in the dark that needs to come into the light? What is it she needs to be blessed in? What does she need to say? You’re doing good over here. You tell me how you come to all those judgments, all of those discernments.
This is an extremely difficult, not difficult. Difficult implies you can do it. That’s why I don’t like the word. It’s difficult to do 100 pushups or my age, probably a little bit less, right? It’s difficult. It is impossible. One has the grace of God to be in leadership or he doesn’t. And if I sin in such a way, if I do something that’s wrong, if there’s starting to take advantage, he will withdraw that grace. You don’t understand this, that as a Psalm says, “When he hides his face from you, the earth trembles.” The biggest fear I have in this world is that he hides his face because I’ve done wrong. And then when he hides his face, I search my heart and I cry out to him and say, Search my heart, O God, see if there be any offensive way to me. And that’s not a song. That’s not some happy go lucky kind of prayer. That is dead serious. Search me O God, I want to be holy. Any comments on that, Jacob?
Jacob: I think the other thing is like Simmons, of course, has no clue. The average church has like leadership teams and there’s like a bunch of people, right? And so, from the outside looking in, when they only see there’s kind of like one pastor, of course, it was a small church anyways. But this is the reason why, if anything, everybody in sound doctrine knew that the seriousness of being in leadership, everybody knew it because everybody has read this scripture and could see it in you. And so, there was no like, oh, I want to be a pastor or a deacon or an elder or whatever. It’s like, oh, really? Oh, really? You really want to do this? There was a way more seriousness to it than we’re just going to shove somebody in a position.
Timothy: You bring up a good point, not to mention the fact I was desperate for elders or deacons.
Jacob: Correct. It’s not like you ever didn’t want people to, but it was that serious…
Timothy: Because there was nobody that was qualified.
Jacob: Sure. Yeah.
Timothy: I can’t just make this. Who was the again? Bo, what’s his name? Slandered me with city council of Enumclaw. Chavez.
Jacob: Bo Chavez. Yeah, I don’t know the incident you’re thinking of, but.
Timothy: Well, all he wrote and whatever he came to the Salt Shakers said that I can had all their everybody’s pay cheques. And I mean, I kept everybody’s checking account and did all those things. It was a huge amount of slander. But the point is, his church appointed him as an elder. His kids weren’t even grown. I mean, just a casual reading of the scripture. So, in churches, they’re desperate for people to be involved. So, everybody gets put in positions of leadership.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: And the word is just meaningless.
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: I mean, if you preach what leadership is about, it’s like, no, well, let me put it to you this way. If I preach, let’s say, a series of sermons on what leadership is in Jesus Christ. And I say, okay, who is eager? Who wants in this position? And I see a couple of hands go up. I can tell you right now, those are not the people.
Jacob: Correct. Yeah.
Timothy: It’s the people that don’t want to. I’m not telling you God wouldn’t say because they put their hand up, even the apostles debated who was the greatest and thought they would be next to Jesus. I understand the civil nature, but I’m just kind of on a basic level when it’s all laid out, when it’s just very clear, this is what leadership is. This is a responsibility. You won’t have a life. Your wife is going to whine because your life is constantly interrupted. My wife used to say all the time, leave the man alone, let him eat his dinner, because when do most people call? They call and they get home and it’s dinner time and everybody’s in desperate need at that point or want a question answered. Or after the Sunday sermon, I didn’t understand this. And what do you mean by that? And why didn’t you say this over here? By the way, this isn’t just people wanting wisdom or information and all that. These people criticizing, looking for every single thing that I do or don’t do or say. So, there was a constant level of not only coming at me and wanting from me. So have fun, Mr. Simmons, if you think you want this territory. Anything, Jacob?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: Take us out of here.
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Washington State Guilty Parties
Without exaggeration King County Courts have zero intrest in evidence, investigations or the truth. Remember this well when showing up for jury duty. Fact: Prosecutors and Judges will use corrupt Police to help script out accusations, not look for evidence, witness tamper and, of course, lie.
While not forgetting those who spread slander, prosecutor Jason Simmons and the cut-throat gang caused many to stumble, sin or fall from the faith. Fear for them because they fear not. See Millstone.
The Lord is slow to anger and great in power; the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet. Nahum 1:3
Guilty Parties
Washington State
Legal Corruption
Listen to The Consider Podcast or examine overwhelming evidence on www.consider.info, or www.enumclaw.com
The following is basic information and a short list of the guilty parties involved.
The Washington State court system and its associated legal entities are currently engaged in significant abuses of rights. Right rape is now the normal operating procedure in Washington State.
The Washington State Supreme Court has systematically undermined the rights of those accused of crimes, leading to rampant corruption among prosecutors and law enforcement. One example out of many of the court’s devaluation of individual rights is exemplified by its ruling allowing dogs in the courtroom in order to manipulate juries in favor of the State.
The Supreme Court of Washington State by appealing to emotions rather than facts of a case threw open the door for police and prosecutors to promote wide-spread and deep seated corruptions. City of Enumclaw Police and King County Prosecutors seized upon this lawlessness in the name of the law to engage in a hate crime of false accusations.
As one prosecutor in Washington State publicly stated during jury selection, the process for the prosecution and police resembles a "dog and pony show." Thus it is no shock to witness the degrading lawlessness, ignoring of facts and right rape of others within the legal system.
In the case of King County Superior Court, State of Washington, Plaintiff vs. Malcolm Fraser, Defendant, Case No. 12-1-01886-0 Knt, it’s important to clarify that the true plaintiff is, in fact, the King County Superior Court, State of Washington, against Sound Doctrine Church or Timothy Williams who was never charged with a crime in Enumclaw, Washington.
Washington State prosecutors have employed abusive legal strategies to pursue an unfounded charge designed to eliminate Timothy Williams or Sound Doctrine Church from Enumclaw. The defendant, Malcolm Fraser, has been exploited by King County prosecutors and Enumclaw police to indirectly proxy-prosecute Timothy Williams.
Judge Beth M. Andrus exhibited favoritism towards Prosecutor Rich Anderson, even after reprimanding him for making inappropriate, prejudicial, and offensive comments. She downplayed the wrongful actions of City of Enumclaw Detective Grant McCall, contributing to a narrative intended to discredit the church and its activities in Enumclaw, ultimately leading to the collapse of a business, church, and bookstore while forcing the church to leave the community. Despite being a pastor’s daughter, Ms. Beth M. Andrus demonstrated a shocking lack of Christian values or even legal common sense.
Judge Lori K. Smith worked with King County prosecutors to hinder and deny the defendant’s ability to present a defense. She turned the criminal proceedings into a chaotic "family court" atmosphere that enabled false accusations to undermine justice. Judge Lori K. Smith, allegedly influenced by being named "Woman of the Year," distorted justice to guarantee a guilty verdict against a man. In short, Judge Lori K. Smith was bribed and, seeking to maintain her social standing abused the rights of the accused.
Prosecutor Dan Satterberg assigned five prosecutors specifically to target the church. Prosecutor Leesa Manion who was supported by Satterberg, takes inappropriate pride in being the first Korean woman to hold a position in the prosecutor’s office. Ms. Manion actively endorses the corrupt practices initiated by Satterberg, including reinstating Prosecutor Rich Anderson.
Detective Grant McCall of the City of Enumclaw was implicated in orchestrating a fabricated hate crime. He deleted evidence and fabricated accusations while refusing to investigate the claims of hatred and the actual crime as charged against Mr. Fraser. Detective Grant McCall and King County Prosecutors knew that a proper inquiry and investigation would expose the falsehoods. King County prosecutors obstructed and suppressed any effort to initiate a proper investigation.
The prosecutor team included Prosecutors Mark Larson, Lisa Johnson, Nicole Weston, Rich Anderson, and Jason Simmons.
This is not an exhaustive list of those who have facilitated, protected, and perpetuated self-serving corruption within the Washington State court system.
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. Acts 17:30
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